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Any one know when Flyer version 4.1 will be sent out to current Flyer
owners???

-Lance <><
Empire Productions

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Can you tell me more about PolyForm?
Is it a shareware?

Thanks!

Eddie Quah


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From: [e-mail] (Tank Taylor)
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Subject: Re: quantum fireball and PVR?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 05:18:15 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Justin Austin) wrote:

>
>
>Is anyone successfully using the 1.2 gig quantum fireball
>with the PVR?  Or is anyone having success with smaller drives
>that are NOT on dps approved pvr hd list?

Tried a Fireball on my PVR when I got it... no luck.  Must be on list.
Get a Barracuda....


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>  Jp@ said:
>
>  >is the a way to target an object with another object like you would
>  >with the camera or light?

    BTW, this is the LAMEST title for a posting in this newsgroup.....

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From: [e-mail] (Scott Adams)
Subject: Student Discounts?
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    Hey...

    I'm a high school senior and I'm interested in purchasing Lightwave
  3D.  Of course, I'm willing to pay the full cost, but I'm also curious
  as to whether or not Newtek offers student discounts.  Anyone know?

    Thanks!

                -Scott A.
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 "Life is too short to be bored." - Nietzsche

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Justin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: rev c patch and pennelo bug
Date: 10 Jan 1996 00:50:17 -0500
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On Jan 09, 1996 19:15:33 in article <Re: rev c patch and pennelo bug>,
'John Mark Roquemore <[e-mail]>' wrote:


thanks much john


>Michael,
>
>Try this,
>1. go in the LWM.CFG file with test editor
>2. find any lines about Pennelo and delete them.
>3. Go into LW and try to re-add the plug-in
>4. Exit the program
>5. Then go right back in and try it.
>
>
>Explain: I think that rev c does not del lines in the CFG file
>correctly, I did this and I work just fine now....
>
>Hope this helps, let me know!
>
>
>John Mark Roquemore
>net: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Emmanuel Olympia )
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Subject: where to get Pantone swatch book?
Date: 10 Jan 1996 21:05:40 GMT
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Is there a book that will show you all the green,red, and blue
combinations possible in lightwave? someone mentioned a Pantone swatch
book, does anyone have info. on this?

Emmanuel Olympia

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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Owens)
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Subject: PHOTO-QUALITY COLOR 8X10'S FROM YOUR DIGITAL IMAGES !
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Photos Now, a retail photo lab in DeKalb, IL, can produce
photo-quality 8X10's from your computer images.  E-mail your images to
us and we can produce a professionally finished document. For more
information, our home page is http://www.tbcnet.com/pnow/index.html



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From: [e-mail](John Clodfelter )
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Subject: 3D object of male head and bust needed
Date: 10 Jan 1996 05:41:35 GMT
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Please help me locate a 3D object of a male head and bust for a
Lightwave annimation I need to do.  Ideally I'd like to download it but
I'll take it any way I can get it.

Thanks for any help.

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From: [e-mail] (Emmanuel Olympia )
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Subject: is there software that will convert imagine into LW objects?
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Hello,

    Just a newbie question:  Is there software that can convert imagine
objects into lightwave objects?  Thanks

Emmanuel Olympia

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On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, KARL DITTMAN wrote:

> Nick, Rasmussen wrote:
> >
> > I'm just curious, but does anyone know at what resolution they
> > rendered the movie in?


resolution per frame:  1526 x 922

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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
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Subject: Re: How do I know which Rev to Patch from?
Date: 10 Jan 1996 14:09:35 -0500
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The Rev is printed on the CD-ROM.
--Brian
Equinox Images, Inc.
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
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In article <4d25bb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Powell) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
>Subject: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
>Date: 11 Jan 1996 04:57:15 GMT



>        Hi all...

>        I need help with Lightwave, in either:

>        1 - Help for why Lightwave (Rev B) can no longer initialize
>           (can't find the dongle)   could it be a system or install
>            problem?

For a guy who is hard up, you give pretty skimpy info.  Did it ever work? What
OS are you using?  If it did work at one time, what events occured around the
time it stopped working.

>        2 - if no soultion is there, I need a crack.
>            (and don't you other other guys bother giving me
>            crap about it... I have a business to run, and I'm hard
>            down now....)

Nobody likes the dongle.  Probably not even NewTek.  But most of dislike
pirating more.  Running a business on one copy/unit of anything is risky.  You
should have redundancy/backups etc.  You operate without redundancy at your
own peril.

>        Lastly, to those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this...
>        to hell with you.  What good is being a _loyal_ LW user since
>        0.9x Beta Toaster, if the protection will prevent me from using
>        the software I paid for.(Look for the '10 Reasons I hate NewTek' list
>        on my web site soon.)
>        Regretfully,
>        -mp-

Calling NewTek bastards is not a very smart way to get help here.  I certainly
have my quibbles with NewTek, but I don't hate them - not by a long shot.
What good is being a rude jerk when asking for help.  Answers for dongle
problems have been posted ad nauseum here.  I would normally be happy to post
some of the things to check, but your attitude sucks and I could care less if
you ever get the program up and running.  I hope others here feel the same
way.  Call NewTek tech support.  Besides, it is an interesting leap from "I
have dongle problems" to a posting a request for a software crack.
Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AMIGA TO NT
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 01:49:02 +0000
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I am currently concidering upgrading to a more powerful computer to do
my computer animation on.  I love lightwave and have version on my
amiga 2000  I'm hesitant to upgrade now because I hear the 4.0 NT
Lightwave is riddled with bugs. Has anyone made the switch and how
bumpy was the transition?


  Welp, Pre-Release was riddled with bugs.. REV B of 4.0 was stable..only a few bugs
plagued us. there was one seriouse bug in memory management which was microsofts
fault, that could make the computer run out of virtual memory and ram memory when
using image sequences that used the HIIP loaders rather than the internal LW iff,targa
loaders...there was a bug in penello..but as of REV C of LW these bugs have been
fixxed.and LW 4.0 REV C renders more quickly than prior revisions...

REV C still has a few bugs..like the need to exit layout and reload if you want to
generate an AVI (ANIM) after you;ve previously generated one in LW. But luckily PC
lightwave loads in unser 3 seconds :)..and i can make REV C crash by doing some
bizaree things..in layout..but it isn;t something that many people have run
across..becauei am the only one who noticedit..but others have reproduced it after i
told them how...

All in ALL..LW is stable and the statement riddled with bugs...is missleading..sure
ther are bugs..but it doesn;t stop the program from being any more productive than
Amiga LW. The speed differrencein incredible tooo!!!

Anyway, If you buy LW now..it will probably be REV B..newtek offeres free upgrades to
REV C and you can d/l it from the bbs or the internet ftp site after you get REV B...

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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Chan)
Subject: Animation Master 4 Features!
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Hi folks,

Just back after the first day of MacExpo. Nothing too exciting for
graphics except what I saw at the Animation Master booth. For those of
you who may have seen my posts before, I am an Animation Master user, for
the PC and the Mac. I also use InfiniD, Strata StudioPro, Lightwave,
Alias PA, and 3DStudio, it depends on what I'm doing. But most of the
time I use Animation Master since I do mostly character animation and
modeling on PCs and Macs.

Okay, here's the thing. Version 4 is in beta testing now. My
understanding is that Version 3 users will automatically get 4 as well,
but don't quote me on that, that's what I remember being told, so don't fret.

Feature set of Version 4: Particles Effects. Yes, finally. I saw them and
they are nice. Morphing textures can be lain on the particles themselves
too, it's really nice. Blobbies (aka Metaballs) Didn't get to see them
too extensively but they are there.

Integrated Materials Editor. This is nice. You can render the materials
into texture maps if you want to of any size that you wish (Darn, and
I've got Alienskin, Texturemaker, and TextureScape, I think I'm
overkilling, eh?). Very nice, and it is through the Materials editor that
you generate particles as well.

Dynamics. These include gravity and collision detection, but no wind as yet.

And, specific for the Animation Master package (the above may or may not
be in MHA, I'm not sure, you'll need to check with Hash, I have a feeling
that Particles and Materials will not be in MHA). There will be output
with .qtm format, which is the cubic patch geometry format that is
supported by nVidia. In this case, you can take the geometry straight
from AM and plug it into your app that uses the nVidia chipset to do VERY
FAST realtime rendering... IN PATCHES!!! Can you say smooth? My group
will be using this feature for an upcoming title.

Alright, and now for the coup de grace... with a $300  Diamond Edge card
(has the nVIDIA chipset), oh man... You get realtime patch rendering on
screen. Realtime. You can tweek the geometry of your model around, you
can turn, move, zoom the geometry, pull, stretch, push, the splines
anywhere, and the thing will be totally realtime rendered, utterly
smooth, spline patches. Nothing, NOTHING this side of the SGI does THAT!
It's a complete productivity coup.

I'll be buying the Diamond Edge just for that, even though it's a so-so
card (there should be other vendors using the nVIDIA chipset at some
point in their cards soon) because it will increase my modeling
production time by at least 2 to 3 times. Quick, much less realtime
renders are the main appeal of SGIs along with their terrific software.
Well, AM is extremely functional and capable software, and with this new
feature, the realtime rendering means you can get the main advantages of
an SGI for $3000. Right now the Edge card is not made for PowerMacs,
however, as it is PCI, the main thing that needs to be done is writing
firmware for the card, as is the case with the other PCI graphics cards
(that's my opinion) Or it is possible that some other card based on the
nVIDIA chipset will be produced for the mac since the mac does not need
the onboard sound functionality that the Diamond Edge currently provides
for PCs.

Don't get me wrong, there are still some things that I would do with
nothing less than Alias PA6/7, but I tell you, for anyone who can't
afford a Box from that company in Mountain View, you're not falling too
far from the tree if you get the above set up.

Unbelievable.

Okay, sorry about the evangelistic spew. As previous posts have sparked
screams and accusations of self-serving hype, let me just reiterate that
I am NOT an employee of Hash, and that I am not paid in any way for my
opinions. And to be honest, I'm not interested in any package contests as
I pretty much use any and all that can do the job. I'm attempting to
describe my feeling for the package and it's new feature set, and what it
is doing for this industry, primarily in giving advantages to small
development/consultant houses like my own.

If any of you are going to MacWorld and haven't done so, I would advise
you to go see the Animation Master booth's demonstration of the realtime
rendering. (It's right next to the mFactory/mTropolis coliseum =) ).

Good Luck!!

-Steve C.

If you have any questions about Animation Master or it's little brother
Martin Hash's Animation (MHA), I'll be happy to forward a miniFAQ that
I've written on the currently available v3, which I will be updating soon
to include the features from v4 once they are totally finalized.

Thanks =).

--


__________________________________________________
Stephen C. Chan
Creative Director
Chanime Interactive
__________________________________________________

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From: [e-mail] (AFrerking)
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Subject: Re: dynamics!
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mark
Whitney) writes:

>When I got my Intel version, there was a flyer for something called
>"Impact" by Dynamic Realities (1-800-994-552) that does physics related
>things such as collision, gravity, etc..  No price info however.

That's 1-800-944-5520. Impact  MSRP Intel $495, Alpha/MIPS $595, Amiga
$295.

Standby for Particle Storm...the most powerful particle system program for
LW, ever.  Available late January '96.  MSRP Intel $295, Alpha/MIPS $345.
Sorry, Amiga version undetermined.

Andy
Dynamic Realities

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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: Re: LW4.0 Rexx scripting problems under Win'95
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Johan Steen ([e-mail]) wrote:

> On 09-Jan-96 20:52:32 Mats-Ola Ström wrote:
> >Hello,
> >I run lightwave 4.0 under Windows 95, but i can't seem to get the
> >Arexx-macros (*.lwm) to work at all. I just get the message:
> >"REXX scripting not available on host system"
> >I haven't a slightest idea what this means, and i have tried almost
> >anything but formatting C:\
> >I would be very happy if there was anyone out there who could help.
> >I run a compaq Prolinea MT 4/66 with only 16mb ram, 1,4Gb Hd...
>
> AREXX script is only available on the Amiga version of Lightwave so far...

This capability is a holdover from the Amiga.  It is more than likely that
AREXX capabilities will not be a part of any non-Amiga LightWave platform.

However, many AREXX macros have been converted to BML, and you can use
them right now on the Intel platform using BML's run-time environment.
See the recent Press Release made to this group by Virtual Visions for more
information.

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Re: How to map a background image
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> I'm trying to map a background image onto a flat plane (behind my
> animation). I can't use a true background image/composite method because
> I need to have the image refract through some foreground objects. what
> camera/object position settings would I use for an NTSC/D1(720x486,
> non-square pixels) rendering so the background image plane is perfectly
> aligned. It must be perfect, since the final footage will match cut to
> the original background imagery? Is there a way to do this accurately?
> Much thanks in advance.

Wasn't there a piece on this in Lightwave Pro?

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Subject: Shadows + Transparency = ERRORS
Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:50:55 GMT
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Lightwave does not calculate the shadows right from dissolving objects.
The shadow map is unaffected by object fading. Raytracing is better but
not perfect at all.

Anyone getting this right?

Per Swantesson
Sweden



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Subject: Re: can you stop lightwave from redrawing?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 20:37:23 -0500
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> is there a way to stop light wave automatically redrawing the entire
> field of view every time you perform an action?
>
> thank you for your assistance
>
> mathew

NO!

You do have several options though. First: check in the options panel and see if you have "Show ReDraw"
turned on. This won't stop lightwave from updating the display but it will toggle on/off the actual drawing
of the lines (bouning boxes Pop to wireframes / Wireframes redraw one wire at a time {no time savings
eather way}).

Second: On the Scene Panel turn any object not curently being edited to Bounding Box or something so that
your redraw will not take as long.

Brad Hayes

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Subject: Re: Newtek FTP site
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 20:41:21 -0500
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To: Randy Penn <[e-mail]>

Randy Penn wrote:
>
> I have been unable to login to Newtek's FTP server.  It comes back with
> some sort of anonymous login nonsense.  Is there a trick or is there
> something wrong with the system?
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Randy

If Iam not mistaken it will give you the anonymous login nonsense every time. That
means your in. Next time that happens read the Directory. "Dir" if your using
somthing like AmiTCP.

Brad Hayes

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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
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Subject: Re: "camera shake" effect?
Date: 10 Jan 1996 18:02:38 GMT
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In <4cudt5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
writes:
>
>[e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:
>
>>> Leuey ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>> :   Hello, I'm in need of a "camera shake" effect.  In an animation
I'm

Alright!

Here's how to do camera shake.  Assuming that your camera is not moving
through the scene, simply create keyframes that are approx. five frmaes
or so apart, (add a little variation) and simply rotate the heading,
pitch, and bank (all axis fir all frames) slightly.  This will give the
illusion that the camera is being rocked by external movement.  Don't
move it's XYZ position.  If your camera is moving, you'll need to add a
null object with the cameras motion attached, and the camera parented
to it with no motion.  Add keyframes to the camera at the appropriate
frames using the same technique.

GT


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From: [e-mail] (Johan Steen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW4.0 Rexx scripting problems under Win'95
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On 09-Jan-96 20:52:32 Mats-Ola Ström wrote:
>Hello,
>I run lightwave 4.0 under Windows 95, but i can't seem to get the
>Arexx-macros (*.lwm) to work at all. I just get the message:
>"REXX scripting not available on host system"
>I haven't a slightest idea what this means, and i have tried almost
>anything but formatting C:\
>I would be very happy if there was anyone out there who could help.
>I run a compaq Prolinea MT 4/66 with only 16mb ram, 1,4Gb Hd...

AREXX script is only available on the Amiga version of Lightwave so far...

/Johan

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From: Tyson Heil <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: In-line embedded AVI's on WWW pages
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 23:02:47 -0600
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> If I make a teensy weensy AVI of 160x100 pixels, about 1.5 seconds long and a
> little (bad sounding and compressed) sound it still ends up being over 150K so I
> don't find it very usable at the moment. But still, it's a nice add-on.
>
> I've got my hopes set on Java though.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Jan-Willem Korver
> MarketGraph Visual Automation, Haarzuilens, The Netherlands
>
> EMail: [e-mail]
> MarketGraph Homepage: <under construcion>


You should probably check out Macromedia Shockwave for Netscape plug-in. It has gotten me much
more excited than Java ever has. I think you will agree this is the way to go.

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
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Subject: Re: Student Discounts?
Date: 10 Jan 1996 18:12:39 GMT
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Scott Adams ([e-mail]) wrote:

:   as to whether or not Newtek offers student discounts.  Anyone know?

it would be great if they offered a freq. upgrader program too.  Turn in
your V2.0/3.0/3.1/3.5 disks and get a deal.

I remember when dealers were telling people that if they got 3.5 the 4.0
version due out in January (95) would only be $150.


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Subject: Re: LightwavePro
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 23:12:22 -0600
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Michael Justin Austin wrote:
>
> On Jan 03, 1996 13:12:57 in article <LightwavePro>, '[e-mail]
> (Thies Uhl)' wrote:
>
>
> >I have ordered the magazine LightwavePro but nothing happens
> >
> >Thies
>
> same here, I subscribed 3 months ago and not a word
>
> but my vtu keeps rollin in
Most of us who subscribe to LightwavePro love the magazine but it has recently been quite a bit
later than normal. I know that John and the guys are awful busy as well. It is worth the wait,
just gotta be patient, but go ahead and call them confirming your subscription if your worried.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help w/ Boolean Subtract!!
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:13:39 -0600
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Adam Ruminer wrote:
>
> When ever I boolean subtract an object from another object I have
> beveled or performed any other tweeking to, the object to be
> subtracted from looks like the cuts are made, but when I go to render
> the object, it renders totally intact (no boolean effect) - even
> though I can see the cuts in the wireframe. What am I doing wrong?
> Any suggestions welcome!!!
>
> [e-mail]


Sometimes boolean subtract leaves a polygon "skin" over the cut-out. Try to select this polygon
if you find one and then cut it. Boolean is tricky sometimes. It looks like it did the job but
then it leaves something unfinished. Good luck.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Label on a Bottle
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:29:29 -0600
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Todd LeMoine wrote:
>
>   I'm looking for help placing what would be a "label" on the front of
> a glass bottle.  Currently I have been trying to us the Drill/Stencil
> technique.  The only problem is that with the bottle being glass the
> label appears the width of the glass, so it looks more like something
> set in the glass than a label on top of it.  Hopefully that made
> sense.  When I select only the outermost faces on the front of the
> bottle to be affected by the Drill, the label texture doesn't appear,
> it just looks like another section of the bottle.  Help from anyone
> who's done something similar to this would be greatly appreciated
>
>    Todd LeMoine
>    -Liquid Visions-


Have you considered trying to make a simple disc object that has the same radius( actually a
little larger, but not too much) as the bottle. Then make the disc as tall as the label size you
need. Next, cut the top and bottom polygons out of the disc and slide what's left up and into
place on the bottle. If you don't want it to wrap all the way around then cut out a polygon or
two from the back of the disc object. If there is just a little whisper of a space between the
"label" and the bottle then it should look pretty good and avoid collision errors at render time.

Hope this works for you.

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:43:44 -0600
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Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>
> In article <4clp0k$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MarcMylar) writes:
> >From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
> >Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
> >Date: 6 Jan 1996 07:13:08 -0500
>
> >In article <4c8413$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] () writes:
>
> >>There's no such word as "irregardless". If you happen to come across
> >>a dictionary that has the nerve to list it anyway, under some sort
> >>of "descriptive" effort (as opposed to "proscriptive), I urge you
> >>to throw that dictionary into the nearest trash bin.
>
> >However, if enough people use it, it'll be there in a couple of years.
> >That's because English is an evolving (or more like mutating) language.
> >I'll bet "alot" and "grow the economy" are in there by now...
>
> >-Marc
>
> I ignored this the first time and should do so now - but I'm not.
>
> There is no authority on what is or isn't a word except perhaps what is or
> isn't accepted as a definition of a word.  If the original poster would look
> up "word" in his dictionary, he would find that "irregardless" could be
> nothing else but a word.  Perhaps it is a silly or stupid word.  Perhaps its
> use shows poor grammar.  But it is a word.
>
> The word shows up in about 1/3 of the dictionaries I looked at at the local
> Barnes and Nobel bookstore.  The word originates from around the turn of the
> century and its usage has apparently been debated ever since.
>
> Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
> Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
> http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
> Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!


Isn't it time to end this thread yet?

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: WANTED: Sheep Object!!
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:46:28 -0600
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Taka Torimoto wrote:
>
> >>> I am looking for a sheep object...
> >>>
> >>> anyone have one that I can have?  Thanks..
> >>>
> >>I won't even ask...
> >
> >Maybe he should check out the alt.bestiality newsgroup.
>
> OH MY GOD!!  NO!  *sigh*
>
> Ya see... I've got a production studio... "Flocking Sheep Productions"
> and I'm interested in making a logo for it (even an animation)...
>
> *sigh*   You perverts!  =)
>
> So... anyone know where I can get a sheep object?!  PLEASE?!
>
> -Taka
> --
> Taka "Dr.Love" Torimoto             Electrical Engineering Senior (Class of 96)
> 340154 Georgia Tech Station         Georgia Institute of Technology
> Atlanta, GA  30332-1465             http://www.gatech.edu/taka
> E-mail: [e-mail]    ********** This space for rent! **********


I'm not sure, "Dr. Love", but I think that sheep over there just winked at you.

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typhoto wrote:
>
> Taka Torimoto wrote:
> >
> > >>> I am looking for a sheep object...
> > >>>
> > >>> anyone have one that I can have?  Thanks..
> > >>>
> > >>I won't even ask...
> > >
> > >Maybe he should check out the alt.bestiality newsgroup.
> >
> > OH MY GOD!!  NO!  *sigh*
> >
> > Ya see... I've got a production studio... "Flocking Sheep Productions"
> > and I'm interested in making a logo for it (even an animation)...
> >
> > *sigh*   You perverts!  =)
> >
> > So... anyone know where I can get a sheep object?!  PLEASE?!
> >
> > -Taka
> > --
> > Taka "Dr.Love" Torimoto             Electrical Engineering Senior (Class of 96)
> > 340154 Georgia Tech Station         Georgia Institute of Technology
> > Atlanta, GA  30332-1465             http://www.gatech.edu/taka
> > E-mail: [e-mail]    ********** This space for rent! **********
>
> I'm not sure, "Dr. Love", but I think that sheep over there just winked at you.


Okay, bad joke. I know.

Seriously though, maybe you should try Viewpoint. Talk to them about it, selling 3d models is
their specialty. http://www.viewpoint.com/

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: B-24 needed...
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:50:00 -0600
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Tank Taylor wrote:
>
> I can build it if I need it, but I figured I'd ask first.  Anyone know
> of any B-24 Liberator models out there?  I've got the tri-view and an
> itchy modeler finger... all I need is time now, but if it's already
> been made.


Try http://www.viewpoint.com/

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From: [e-mail] (Rembrandt)
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[e-mail] wrote:

>What is the best way to convert LW scenes or objects to DXF or
>3dStudio format. I have a PC running Win95.

>Matt

LW has plugins that ship with it that allow direct import and export
of 3ds files. It is still buggy at this point but I have had success
exporting 3ds files from Modeller. Look for LO3ds in TOOLS,
CUSTOM. If it's not there you need to install the plugins from the
Plugins directory.        Robert


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TE KOOP: Lightwave 4.0 ,net 4 maanden oud nog met garantie,met
hardwarelock,1 boek en cdrom,in doos 1800 gulden.
            email [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help w/ Boolean Subtract!!
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In <4cv478$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Adam Ruminer) wrote:

>When ever I boolean subtract an object from another object I have
>beveled or performed any other tweeking to, the object to be
>subtracted from looks like the cuts are made, but when I go to render
>the object, it renders totally intact (no boolean effect) - even
>though I can see the cuts in the wireframe. What am I doing wrong?
>Any suggestions welcome!!!

This is not an easy one to answer because it depends on which version of LW
you're using. I've had some boolean problems with the old Amiga Lightwave 3.5
modeler but I believe I've patched it once with a patch that was available at
Newtek's ftp-site and some boolean problems went away.

In the LW 4.0 modeler on PC everything seems to work OK as far as I know.

In general, if you see the cuts in the wireframe model but note while rendering, try
to see in the modeler if the cut is actually a 'cut' and not another polygon. If it's a
polygon it will probably have the same surface as the rest of the object and won't
show while rendering.

Also if you try to boolean a hole into an object for instance, I always find that it's
best to let the object in the background layer (which will perform the actual 'cut')
significantly overlap the object in the foreground layer.
Strange things can happen when performing booleans though, keep some copies
in other layers...
If everything looks really screwy you might also want to check the direction of your
polygon faces.


Hope this helps.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Jan-Willem Korver
MarketGraph, Haarzuilens, The Netherlands

EMail: [e-mail]


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From: typhoto <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Free 3d Models
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 01:23:38 -0600
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cgid wrote:
>
> For a limited time download any and all models
> and motion paths from any and all versions of the
> Viewpoint dataset CD-Rom for only $249.95.
> Plus for an even more limited time all you 3D
> animators and artists (any one like that out there
> interested in dataset models?) can get a free
> surprise software gift just for you!!!
>
> We guarantee that you'll love the product and the
> free gift e-mail us for the free demo which will
> allow you to download 2 free models
> (in case you don't believe us).
>
> To purchase the product:
> Send your check or money order
> for $249.95 payable to:
>
> Computer Graphic Images & Design Inc.
> PO Box 230135
> Brooklyn NY, 11223
>
> (Please add $4.0 for shipping and handling)


Hmmm....Free=$249...Hmmm...$249 for FREE...Hmmm...Guess I better get my checkbook out. Wow. If I
send them $249 I get FREE models and secret software package. This is better than having a
psychic friend reading for free.

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From: [e-mail] (CHaubensak)
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Subject: MeshPaint 3D for Win 95/NT
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Hello,

MeshPaint 3D for Win 95/NT will ship next week. It can load LightWave and
3D Studio geometry in the 1.0 release.

To get a demo, e-mail me, or call 800-365-1002.

Brent

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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: Virtual Visions announces BML
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT:
Bob Hood
Virtual Visions, Inc.
Tel: [phone]/FAX: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]

Littleton, CO -- January 1, 1996

Virtual Visions, Incorporated, a software engineering and computer animation
firm based in Littleton, Colorado, announced today the commercial availability
of its premier software product, BML(tm).

BML is a scripting and plugin development system designed specifically
for NewTek's LightWave 3D Modeler.  The BML system is comprised of a
Scripting Plugin (BML) and a stand-alone Script Compiler (BMC).  The stand-
alone compiler comes bundled with a run-time version of the BML Scripting
Plugin (BML/RT) that is designed to host compiled BML scripts.

Virtual Visions, Inc., will be offering each component of its BML plugin
development system for US$199.95.  For a limited time, both components of
the BML system are being made available at an introductory price of
US$279.95.  After the introductory period has expired, registered BML
users may upgrade to both components for 60% of the suggested retail
price of US$199.95.

"With the advent of BML, scripting for LightWave Modeler has now moved to a
new level," said Bob Hood, President of Virtual Visions.  "BML offers
today's script programmer a modernized language syntax, expanded internal
capabilities beyond its predecessor (AREXX), and protected distribution of
scripts through the use of BML's royalty-free run-time environment."

Initial releases of the BML plugin development system will be available
for both the Intel and Digital Equipment Corporation's Alpha platforms of
LightWave 3D.  Virtual Visions has stated that support for other LightWave
3D platforms may be announced in the future.

Virtual Visions has made available a preview of the BML system,
along with free access to the public run-time environment and a
number of compiled BML scripts, at their anonymous FTP site:

              ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/plugins/BML
              ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/plugins/BML-RT

*       *        *        *        *        *        *        *       *

Virtual Visions Incorporated provides software engineering and computer
animation services to the entertainment industry.

Virtual Visions Incorporated is a privately-held corporation.

-----
BML, BMC, and BML/RT are all trademarks of Virtual Visions, Inc.
LightWave 3D and LightWave Modeler are trademarks of NewTek, Inc.
All other products and names mentioned are trademarks of their respective
companies.
--
Render me gone,               |||
Bob                         ^(===)^
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Caron)
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Subject: Re: the tutorials included lightwave (at least on the sgi anyway)
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mmolyneux <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Mathew Davis <mathew> wrote:

>>
>>i am fortunate enough to have just loaded a thirty day trial
>>of lightwave 4.0 on to a
>>a silicon graphics indy, and noticed about 80meg of tutorials going
>>down.
>>
>>as i don't have any manuals these tutorials have aroused my curiosity.
>>
>>does anybody know:
>>
>>are these tutorial files simply objects, scenes etc. that you would use with
>>the tutorials in the manual ( which i don't have )

>Yes, the manuals (ours just arrived yesterday) have about 120 pages of
>tutorials; modler, layout and advanced. I guess you could ask Xaos Tools or
>NewTek and see if they would have a copy of the tutorial pages.


>Regards
>
>Morton Molyneux

Those "Tutorial" Objects are a collection of Objects,Scenes and
Images.  Some are used in the tutorials... but the rest are just cool
to play with.  There are many scenes that show off lightwave.

-Bob Caron


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Hello,

I am using two tv's as my program and preview monitor for Lightwave,
but I don't know what type of cables to get and where.  Can you tell me
what the cables are called that will connect the toaster to tv? thanks.

also, why is that sometimes I have to start the toaster hooked up to my
vcr/tv to get the signal properly.  Just hooking up the cable to the
toaster while it is on, i.e. the Video Toaster program, gives me a
screwed up signal. Thanks.

Emmanuel Olympia

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From: [e-mail] (Thies Uhl)
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in layout add the hiip.p plugin

-Thies-

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From: David Koegler <[e-mail]>
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I would like to take the leap and invest in an Avid editing system with a
PwerMac.  I have an Amiga 2000 with a 44MB Syquest removable hard drive.
I would like to be able to send Lightwave-rendered animationfiles over to
the Avid system.  Has anyone had experience with this?  I would be
grateful for any help.

Thanks.


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[e-mail] (Scott Adams) wrote:
>
>    Hey...
>
>    I'm a high school senior and I'm interested in purchasing Lightwave
>  3D.  Of course, I'm willing to pay the full cost, but I'm also curious
>  as to whether or not Newtek offers student discounts.  Anyone know?
>
>    Thanks!
>
>                -Scott A.
>--
>--
> Scott Adams - [e-mail]
> "Life is too short to be bored." - Nietzsche

I know that Computer Services give discounts to students.

Their e-mail address is :
[e-mail]

And they have a number which you can reach :
805-684-0175

I don't know if they have LightWave 3D.



Good Luck :)

-farzad


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From: [e-mail] (peter carlsson)
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I go crazy

is there any one how can explain in modeler how i use the function PATCH.
I have tryed many different method. but the answere is still curves do not
cross correctly.

Please send me a answer, if you now some way.

thanks in advance

Peter

Answer to:
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4cq43b$[e-mail]> Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
>Date: 8 Jan 1996 03:46:51 GMT

>[e-mail] (Cory Arnold) wrote:
>>
>>
>>win95 lets you access drives w/o using drive letters (names)
>>use nodes or network neighborhood
>>*screamernet 4 lightwave accesses drives via names like this*
>>win95 is a great OS spend some time with it before complaining
>>best wishes

>I've been using '95 since it's release on my home computer, and
>I'll have to disagree and say that AmigaDos is definately a
>more powerful OS. Compared to win3.11 it really is an
>advancement, but hey lets face it, windows95 is just the lesser
>of two evils. Beyond the glitzy interface you've got the same
>"70's technology for the 90's (-Stuart Ferguson)".

>Andrew Weiler

First of all - many thanks to Cory for pointing out the use of the "network
neighborhood".  For what its worth this is actually called the UNC (Universal
Naming Convention).  It has been a BIG help in getting Screamernet II running
on all nodes.  So far the only trouble seems to be that ScreamerNet II doesn't
like certain folder names.  It choked on a two word folder name today and I am
not sure if it is the length or the space between the two words.  I suspect it
was the space.

Lastly - how do you measure power?  Built in networking that is a piece of
cake to get running (so long as you use an NE2000 compatible card - which
nearly all PC ethernet cards are) is a big plus for Win 95 despite Win95's
real or imagined shortcomings.  I don't think this type of simple networking
was around in the '70s.  Heck - I think ethernet isn't even that old.  Surely
Win95 isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread, but get a grip.  It is an
extremely useful and flexible OS.  It is attempting to bridge the DOS world
with the Windows world with the upcoming 32-bit Windows world.  There is no
way it will please everybody.  It is trying to fill too many roles.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: [e-mail] (Fusion Films)
Subject: Attn. software companies!
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I recently posted that Fusion Films would be considering
offering a free web page to display demo programs relating
to film, video, 3D animation, visual effects, etc.  We would
like to expand this offer to shareware/freeware also.

If you are a programmer or just an enthusiast of a particular
program that relates to the above groups, please email us and
let us know what program you would like to add to our web page.


Sincerely,

Paul Griswold



--
     *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
     *       Paul Griswold                      [phone]     *
     *     Fusion Films, Inc.                 [e-mail]   *
     * Director/Animator   http://www.ids.net/gamut/fusion1.html  *
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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If I parented a light to an object then cloned that same light, will
that object be brighter since there are now multiple lights lighting
it?
Thx

Emmanuel Olympia

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver) writes:
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|>From: [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver)
|>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
|>Subject: Re: Texture placing is too dificult!
|>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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|>In <4cr7cn$[e-mail]> Per Swantesson
|><[e-mail]> wrote:
|>
|>>I've been using Imagine for some years now and one thing I really love is the
|>>wonderful interactive texture implementation. LW's texture abilities are quite poor,
|>>IMHO.
|>>
|>> [...] stuff deleted
|>>
|>>Such a trivial thing like putting a bitmap logo in a corner of a polygon is hard.
|>>If you've got any hints and suggestions, please write.
|
|>> I suffered through the same experience. Imagine is much easier to use for
    placing textures. My best work around so far has been to use the Stencil
    option . For example I wanted to put an access door on a model of a
    Macross type mech I am modeling. The upper deck is curved. I went to another
    level made a panel with rounded corners and gave it a surface "hatch". Then I
    selected bevel and set the offset to 5cm, and the shift to 0. This gave me
    a outline of my panel within the original. I gave the outline the surface
    "Hatchrim". Then I removed the center polygon and pasted it in another
     layer. OK, now I placed the fighter deck in the forground the panel outline
     in the background and did the stencil. Then I repeated this with the panel.
     the end result was a perfect access panel with trim around the edge on the deck.
      I rendered out the panel only pulled it into the paint program added
     the text "NO STEP" and saved it as a brush. I set the outline surface to
    a darker shade, mapped the brush to the "Hatch" surface and it looks good.
    it is a simple matter of setting the textures to whatever you want. As this
    process creates new polygons you can also extrude these etc. The nice thing
    is that the access panel I did conformes to the complex curves of the
    fighter deck. This makes for a nifty modeling tool also. I also used this
    to add the red stripes to the wings etc. Was just getting exciting, when
    I had to go to work. I plan on a lot of this type of activity for this model.
     I modeled a "radioactive" sign to stencil on the object also. It's a little
    more work but it offers considerable power onec you get used to it.

   -bill

                      +-------------------------------+
                      |                               |
                      |         Bill Leimberger       |
                      |                               |
                      |[e-mail] |
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|>--
|>-----------------------------------------------------------
|>Jan-Willem Korver
|>MarketGraph, Haarzuilens, The Netherlands
|>
|>EMail: [e-mail]
|>
|>

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*SNIP*
>
>>        Lastly, to those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this...
>>        to hell with you.  What good is being a _loyal_ LW user since
>>        0.9x Beta Toaster, if the protection will prevent me from using
>>        the software I paid for.(Look for the '10 Reasons I hate NewTek' list
>>        on my web site soon.)
>>        Regretfully,
>>        -mp-
>
>Calling NewTek bastards is not a very smart way to get help here.  I certainly
>have my quibbles with NewTek, but I don't hate them - not by a long shot.
>What good is being a rude jerk when asking for help.  Answers for dongle
>problems have been posted ad nauseum here.  I would normally be happy to post
>some of the things to check, but your attitude sucks and I could care less if
>you ever get the program up and running.  I hope others here feel the same
>way.  Call NewTek tech support.  Besides, it is an interesting leap from "I
>have dongle problems" to a posting a request for a software crack.
>Walter (Jay) Turberville


           Ditto.

           Dan Ablan


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    Were the hotkeys posted for the Powerview plugin ONLY for Alpha version,
or were they global (which would be the normal practice) ?  Cuz the PC versions
didn't seem to do anything.

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>   [e-mail] (Adam Ruminer) writes:
>  When ever I boolean subtract an object from another object I have
>  beveled or performed any other tweeking to, the object to be
>  subtracted from looks like the cuts are made, but when I go to render
>  the object, it renders totally intact (no boolean effect) - even
>  though I can see the cuts in the wireframe. What am I doing wrong?

    Maybe those polygons are facing the "wrong" way, so they are invisible.

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: is there software that will convert imagine into LW objects?
Date: 11 Jan 1996 17:46:54 GMT
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In article <4d1ql8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>    Just a newbie question:  Is there software that can convert imagine
>objects into lightwave objects?  Thanks

Yes, there's a program called InterChange, available for Amiga or
Windows, that converts between more than forty file formats, including
that particular translation.  Call [phone] for more info.

- John


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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: REV C bug with AVI saving
Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:20:30 -0500
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I agree 100%.  I kept asking and NewTek would say wait for rev. C.
Disapointing.

DXF import now works well though.

>I can't believe they didn't fix this...

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From: Daryl Stultz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: where to get Pantone swatch book?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 20:16:36 -0500
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Emmanuel Olympia <[e-mail]> writes:

>Is there a book that will show you all the green,red, and blue
>combinations possible in lightwave? someone mentioned a Pantone swatch
>book, does anyone have info. on this?

First, there are 16.7 million color combinations with RBG. Second, monitors
and video screens vary in color so a swatch book would not be to helpful. Third
in the 3D environment with lighting and so forth, the color in slider boxes will
most likely not match your rendered image. Fourth, the PANTONE Matching System
is for the print industry with colors being either SPOT (specially mixed) or
process (CMYK- cyan, magenta, yellow and black rather than RGB)

-3D Daryl

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: PR: NewTek ends license of Syndesis translators
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In article <4cv0ek$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>From: [e-mail] ()
>Subject: Re: PR: NewTek ends license of Syndesis translators
>Date: 10 Jan 1996 00:15:16 GMT



>|>On a sadder note, this apparent need for NewTek to cut costs lends some
>|>credence to Lee's suggestion that NewTek isn't doing so well.  Maybe we'll
>|>have to get another copy of LW soon.
>|>
[snip]
>  BTW I support my dealer whenever possible. By this I mean I order from
>  him as long as he is within a 10-20 dollar range of the mail order houses.
>  I'm not a rich person but he has also had a tough time due to the death of
>  CBM, but nonetheless he hung in there with Toaster/Flyer/LW support for
>  all his customers. I think it is time some got off the soapbox on how
>  Bad NewTek is doing(not you walt) and SHOW some support for NewTek even if
>  it is only moral support in nature. It seems I tend to see a lot of kick the
>  dog while he's down around here!
>  bill
>  -bill

There is a saying to the effect that if I fall for a lie once then shame on
the liar, but if I fall for it a second time, then shame on me.  Our studio
uses LightWave almost exclusively.  It is our primary 3D tool by a long shot.
So, of course we want NewTek to do well with all of their products.  We love
the program.  We recommend the program (recently to a local graphics school
and to a local community college with a 3D curriculum).  However, NewTek has
established a poor track record on delivering on promises over the last two
years.  That hurts my enthusiam for the company because it shows a lack of
concern for me as a customer.  I assume that other customers see it the same
way too.  It also means I have to weigh their track record when evaluating
what NewTek says.  I sincerely want NewTek to flourish.  I just cannot blindly
champion their cause as though the past doesn't exist. Maybe 1996 will be the
turnaround year.  I hope so.

BTW - my above comments completely exclude anything that Stuart Ferguson has
posted in this newsgroup.  I have found his comments and information very
useful and I do not recall him ever posting anything misleading.  Stuart has
been an excellent source of information and I am sure all that of us here
agree on that and thank him for that.

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From: [e-mail] (Eric J Fleischer, MD)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: simple question from a newbie.
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 01:35:00 GMT
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Mathew Davis <mathew> wrote:

>i've spent today
>plugging away ot my first day using
>lightwave
>
>i have a thirty day trial version that
>doesn't come with
>any manuals

   The common parlance for such a version is a pirated version,
Mathew. In other words, you are using stolen software. There is no
"thirty day trial version".  You are not likely to get help from us
paying users.


<ELF> - Dr Gandalf - Eric J Fleischer, MD
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: Jp@ (WunderKin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lightwave Command line switches
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 15:15:13 GMT
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does lightwave 40 intel, have any command line switches upon
execution?

Just curious.

JP


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You are correct sir! Must have happened because I copied directly
from the 32 bit directory after installation.

thx
jmb


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NewTek support and software stability
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In article <[e-mail]> Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
>Subject: NewTek support and software stability
>Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 00:32:47 -0500

>I was thinking about picking up Lightwave to use for some animation I
>do. It seems like a good package but from it's release I have been
>waiting because of people complaining about NewTek and bugs in the
>software. I think from the posts it seems to be up to RevC or D, is it
>safe yet to get this and not have to worry about crashes or other weird
>occurences. I know NewTek has been around for a while I used to use VT a
>few years ago, how are they as a company now, I have heard many
>complaints and praises here. What I want is a company who will
>aggressivly attack MAX and Softimage, and a product that is as stable as
>3DSr4(I know this is asking a lot of a Windows package:)). Or should I
>wait to see what R5 is like?

>Jeff
>--
>The Ohio State University
>S. PRGMR 3
>The Advanced Computing Center of Art and Design(ACCAD)
>Emerging Technology Suite

There were problems with the HIIP plugins that may or may not be resolved.  We
use LightWave in a rather "plain" configuration without these plugins and some
of the other included plugins.  We render .tga and .iff files and use .tga and
..iff files for maps exclusively.  Also, the TrueType support is weak in Rev A
and B.  It doesn't handle closed shapes like an "O" properly.  However,
Postscript support seems perfectly fine.

Under Win 3.x we found that Modeler would crash at times when metaforming
large objects.  The exact same object metaformed just fine under Win 95 using
the same software revision (A or B - I forget).  Also under Win 3.x, Layout
would crash if a scene file had a long file name.  We ran into this when
transfering scenes from the Amiga to the PC.

Under Win 95, I cannot recall a crash though we may have had one.  We also use
Photoshop 3.04 and I would say that LightWave is more stable than Photoshop
3.04 for us.  I am sure that we have not had a single crash in an overnight
rendering session.

I think LightWave is a stable program.  I cannot attest to the stability of
some of the included plug-ins though. I think most of the complaints have been
HIIP related.  Saving AVI files seems to be a major problem that shows up
almost weekly here.

We have never called tech support that I know of.  However, we stay informed
on the program via LightWave Pro (highly recommended - there is supposedly a
compilation book of past issues due out), this newsgroup, and Video Toaster
User.


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Zip Drive?
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Has anyone used a Zip drive to transfer files from a PC to
>the Amiga.If so how is this done.

I do it all the time. Ihave 2 zip drives one on my pc and one on my
amiga both scsi versions.
 my amiga is running with cross dos 6.0 and reads and writes my iff
files from lightwave to the zip in ms-dos file format. 12345678.iff.
then i just eject my zip and stick it in the pc.  no problem there.
flawless.  you can transfer appx. 90 frames on a zip at a time.

unfortunately though i have had trouble with my scsi port not
terminating i believe due to a GVP 040/33 combo manufacture flaw.
that sometimes causes incorrect check sums to be written to  my boot
drive when my GVP locks up.

*if you are using multiple zip cartridges on on the Amiga be sure the
zips have the same name or the Amiga OS may not recognize the new
disk.


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Perez)
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Subject: Re: LightwavePro
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Tyson Heil <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> same here, I subscribed 3 months ago and not a word
>>
>> but my vtu keeps rollin in
>Most of us who subscribe to LightwavePro love the magazine but it has recently been quite a bit
>later than normal. I know that John and the guys are awful busy as well. It is worth the wait,
>just gotta be patient, but go ahead and call them confirming your subscription if your worried.

I would be a better situation if the folks at AVID started putting the
issue of expiration on the mailing label. Missing a month or two and
then getting a issue throws off ability to quickly figure out how many
more issues you have coming to you.

Joe Perez



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In article <4d4ikd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Jp@ (WunderKin) wrote:
>>is the a way to target an object with another object like you would
>>with the camera or light?
>
>    Nothing for the PC, yet, that I know of.
>    Amiga version, however, there's a nifty little
>    program called "Point At", from the makers
>    of "Sparks", MetroGrafx.
>
>    Jon Tindall has done a nice job on this program,
>    as well as "Wobbler" and a few others.
>    [phone]
>
>    Dan Ablan
>    AGA Digital Studios
>    C h i c a g o
>
>
PMFJIB

Dan, I've tried sending you several messages to get info on your Chicago LW
association.  Any particular reason you're not replying?



------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Texture placing is too dificult!
Date: 10 Jan 1996 21:12:02 -0700
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In article <4cr7cn$[e-mail]> Per Swantesson <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Per Swantesson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Texture placing is too dificult!
>Date: 8 Jan 1996 13:49:10 GMT

>I've been using Imagine for some years now and one thing I really love is the
>wonderful interactive texture implementation. LW's texture abilities are quite
>poor,
>IMHO.

>When I tried the following in LW, I failed with:
> handling multiple textures on top of each other
> place a small logo on a big polygon
> placing and setting of individual wave parameters
> put off bitmap tiling
> exact positioning without lot's of trial and error (10 test renders)

>Imagine handles this easily (but can't do displacement).

>Such a trivial thing like putting a bitmap logo in a corner of a polygon is
>hard.
>If you've got any hints and suggestions, please write.

>Per Swantesson
>Ericsson Software Technology AB
>Sweden
>

One of the main reasons Imagine is still on my hard disk is so I can render
out textures to map to objects in LightWave.  I agree that Imagine has more
versatility than LW when it comes to creating textures.  However:

1)LW will support a displacement map, a color map, a diffuse map, a luminosity
map, a specular map, a transparency map and a reflectivity map - all on the
same surface.  Once you get used to the different paradigm, I think you will
find the LW surface features much better than poor.

2) I handle the small map on a large poly in two ways.
a) I make a small poly of the appropriate size and in the appropriate
location and place it ever so slightly above the large polygon.  I give it a
different name and map my image to this new poly.In essence, I model a sticker
object and "stick" it where I want it.

b) I subdivide (not necessarily using the subdivide feature of modeler) the
object so that there is a polygon where I need it.  I then rename the
polygon's surface and apply the texture as above.

I think once you get used to the new paradigm, you will find that LW's texture
capabilities are better than poor.





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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Pricing on non PC platforms
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In article <4cv2ed$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
[snip]
>  BTW I still don't have 4.0 of LW for the Amiga
>   but feel that under the circumstances the wait while frustrating is
>   justifiable.
>
>  -bill
>

I could be wrong, but LW for all three platforms was supposed to ship more or
less simultaneously sometime in early 1995.  At least this is how I remember
the original Siggraph announcement and subsequent reports.  It has been a
while now, so my memory could be wrong on this.  It is now early 1996.  What
exactly is the justification?

The way things have gone, NewTek will gain one more PC license from us than we
planned and one less Amiga license.  We are still waiting for the Toaster
Upgrade which may come even later than the Standalone Upgrade - or did we miss
the mailing somehow?  Anyway - the point is that we are likely to skip the
Toaster Upgrade and add another Pentium.  Meanwhile Amiga based animation work
is somewhat crippled compared to PC work.  It would be nice to have the two
tools "in sync" as far as rendering features.

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From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anim to Video
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typhoto <[e-mail]> wrote:

>me wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (Rich Comber) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>>
>> >As a new owner of LW4.0, my goal is to develop my skills and eventually
>> >produce a demo tape of my work.  There is alot of professional experience
>> >here on this group and so ...   I'm looking for a low cost (<$500) solution to
>> >move my anims to video.  Enough to show off my work.  I'm looking for
>> >suggestions on hardware/software (intel platform).   I'm currently using a
>> >5x86-120 w/32MB RAM, 1.2GB HD running Win NT 3.51.
>>
>> >BTW - I'm in the NW burbs of Chicago.  Any users or LW usergroups in the area?
>>
>> >Thanks in advance for the advice!
>>
>> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Rich Comber <[e-mail]>        "The only bad day you have is the
>> >                                       one you'll never get to see."
>>
>> There are no low cost solutions. Either a single frame recorder (in
>> excess of $1000.00 or a PAR with good HD in excess of $2,000.00 thats
>> your choice.


Please don't laugh at this question <G>...has anyone tried using a PC
to Video encoder?  They cost less than $500.  They're not as pro as
the PAR but it's a start, isn't it?

Chris



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Hi All,

Thinking of buying Lighgtwave for my daughter , but the retail proice of
$750 is a little bit steep for a 16th birthday present, so if any of you
does have copy for sale, I'be be vry interested. Please e-mail me if you do.

I do not want a pirated copy, please.

mazli

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This is a test post - please ignore.

LCS


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From: [e-mail] (Lloyd Stauning)
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What I'd Like to See in Lightwave 5

After reading the posts on this newsgroup for a couple of months I've decided to post my first message.  I've
been using Lightwave for several years and am not an expert by any means, but I have used it enough to know
what I'd like to see in future releases.  I figure that NewTek must read this newsgroup periodically and so
this is a type of open letter to them (and to you, the reader).  If there's a way to already do what I mention
and I just haven't figured it out yet, please post and let me know - you'll make my life a lot easier.  If
there's things you'd like to see, please add your comments to this post.  Oh, and If I've made a flat-out
error in anything I've said here, please correct the error, gently.

Radiosity

Radiosity is a type of rendering which accounts for such things as light reflecting off one surface on to
another surface.  If you've never seen a rendering done that includes radiosity effects there's no comparison
to a picture done with ray-tracing alone - the level of realism jumps by an order of magnitude.  I've seen it
used mostly in architectural renderings and the pictures look fantastic.  In the past I didn't worry too much
about radiosity.  From what I hear, it takes an extremely long time to render (making ray-tracing look like
the Roadrunner to radiosity's Coyote), and when LW was running on '020 Amigas I figured it would render
so slowly it wasn't worth the trouble.  Now, however, LW runs on Pentiums, Alphas and SGI equipment, and the
speed needed to make it practical is available.  Besides, if I decide I want to wait a looong time for that
one, perfect rendering, so be it.  Some game developers could use the effect to great advantage in their
games, which often use stationary backgrounds.  Radiosity is becoming available on some high-end commercial
software, and at least one package for UNIX, Radiance, is available to download off the internet.  It should
be available on Lightwave, which has always prided itself on providing high-end features at reasonable cost.

Photoshop Plug-Ins

Photoshop, by Adobe, is probably the pre-eminent image processing program for the PC, and is available for
the Mac, Windows, and SGI platforms (and maybe others, as well).  It has a plug-in feature, similar to that
used by LW, that allows third parties to write custom image processing routines.  Why can't LW use these
plug-ins in their image processing?  From what I've seen when I render a picture in LW, the LW image
processing plug-ins are a kind of post-process:  the picture is rendered, then the plug-in is applied.  If
Photoshop plug-ins could be used scores of new effects could become available for LW users at minimal cost.  I
think at least one other package, Ray Dream Designer for the PC, allows you to use Photoshop plug-ins.
Lightwave should, too.

Multiple Textures on a Surface

Imagine you've spent hours trying to get a perfect repeating brick texture painted to apply to a large wall,
which is a single polygon.  Now you want to spray graffiti on the wall.  How do you do it?  The surface
already has an image applied to it, the brick texture, so there's no way to add the second image to the
polygon.  You could repeat that perfect brick texture many many times in your paint package, add the graffiti
and apply it to the wall as a single picture, but that takes up tons of extra memory, not to mention the extra
effort involved with the paint package.  Or Lightwave could allow you to put two images on the surface.  If
you can place one image as a bump map, another image as a color map and a third as a specular map, why can't
you apply two, or three, or ten as bump maps?  Or transparency maps?  I come from the Amiga world and moved to
PC-ville, and a package like Imagine will let you apply an indefinite number of images to a surface.  Two
corollaries to this request:  I'd like Lightwave to support transparent colors on color image maps, where you
define one color as the transparent color and it doesn't appear on the surface, and visual placement of image
maps.  Again, Imagine has an advantage here in that it lets you visually apply images to the surface of a
model.  The image itself isn't shown, but a wireframe outline of the image showing its size and location
appears; it's a big help.  (The multiple-image request is the single biggest thing I'd like to see NewTek
address out of the list I've compiled).

Constant Velocity

Someone more clever than I may have already figured this one out, but I've had occasions where I want a camera
to move through an area (say, around a chess board).  I set my key frames but the velocity from key frame one
to frame two is different from frame two to three.  I have to spend a lot of time tweaking and adjusting the
frames around to get the velocity right, and no matter how hard I try I still can't get it quite constant.
I'd like a button in LW where I could set my key frames, hit "CONSTANT VELOCITY" and Lightwave would
recalculate the key frames to make the velocity constant.  If I wanted, after I hit the button I could then
make front-end and rear-end adjustments to ease up and ease down the speed, but the movement in the middle
would be constant.  If I remember correctly, someone sells a set of macros for LW that includes this function,
but I'd like it to be an integral part of Lightwave.

What else would I like to see?  Plenty, but I'll save more for my next post so you don't get too bored reading
this.  Happy rendering.

Lloyd Stauning


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[e-mail] schrieb in 4bqvti$[e-mail]
unter dem Subject Re: Expanding Motions? folgendes:

> >   [e-mail] (DAN BLOOMFIELD) writes:
> >  I'm not sure I completely comprhend what you are trying to do, but cut
> >  and paste is available in all the envelope editors in 4.0. Just copy the
> >  range of frames for your motion cycle and paste them where needed,
> >  making adjustments where neccesary.
>
>     DAMN!  So it is.  Y'know, it's a real handicap not having the manuals
> if you are as print-oriented as I, and don't >like< to approach a program
> as if playing a round of "Zork".

Umm, I was the initial poster, asking for expanding of motions. And as
I stated, I'm still working with LW3.5. Yes, I HAVE a manual along
with the LW Essential tape. But this above mentioned CutNpaste seems
to be implemented only in LW4.0 which I didn't received yet.
Unfortunately.

--
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+-- Jp@ (WunderKin) writes:
| does lightwave 40 intel, have any command line switches upon
| execution?

Modeler can take up to ten object files on the commandline, and
each one will be loaded into a separate layer.  The option "-d"
is used to provide debug info for plug-in developers.

I think Layout also supports "-d".
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>
>That was my thought also, but then someone else posted that they had a
30 day
>SGI trial package.  I think this type of package trialing is somewhat
common
>on the SGI.  So - can anybody confirm or deny that there is an SGI
package
>like this?
>
>
>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]
[e-mail]
>Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
>Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

This is true about the SGI version, but companies who give trial
versions of their software also give manuals as well.  It's part of the
trial.

GT


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[e-mail] (Emmanuel Olympia ) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am using two tv's as my program and preview monitor for Lightwave,
>but I don't know what type of cables to get and where.  Can you tell me
>what the cables are called that will connect the toaster to tv? thanks.
>
>also, why is that sometimes I have to start the toaster hooked up to my
>vcr/tv to get the signal properly.  Just hooking up the cable to the
>toaster while it is on, i.e. the Video Toaster program, gives me a
>screwed up signal. Thanks.
>
>Emmanuel Olympia

I haven't rilly used my toaster since ver.2.0, but I think I can help you out.
Maybe.

1st off, ya need to get an Amiga computer monitor (Do they still make 'em?).  If you
try using an NTSC signal from your Amiga to work in lightwave or the toaster's
switcher, your going to end up with a headache.  The resolution of your
lightwave work screen in a NTSC TV signal causes nasty "dot crawl" that's annoying
as heck.  But, I'll assume you're aware of this and want to hook up two TV's anywho.

Okay, you said you want to use 2 television sets.  I'm going to assume that these
two tv's don't have a "NTSC" or "Video In" input so you're gonna have to run a RF
signal to 'em. (ouch, this is even worse than NTSC)  Nowadays a RF signal is
typically caried through a cable that looks, coincidentally enough, like a your
standard cable TV line.  Anyway, (are you sure you want to do this?) to hook up your
toaster to two standard TV sets try this:

1) go to radio shack and get a NTSC to RF signal converter, you'll need this to run
the preview screen

2) get 2 RF cables while you're there

3) get 2 BNC cables

4) get a BNC female to RCA male plug adapter (to plug into the NTSC to RF converter)

5) Okay, now to hook it up...First, the program output of the toaster runs to your
VCR, use one of your BNC lines for this.  If your VCR does not have a "line in" that
accepts a BNC connection you'll need to get another BNC to RCA adapter.  From your
VCR, run a RF cable to one of your TV's.  There, your program monitor is up and
runnin'.

6) to get the preview monitor up, run a BNC from the toater's preview out to the
NTSC/RF converter.  Use your BNC/RCA adapter to connect to the conveter.  Now, run a
RF cable from the converter to your TV.

7) there ya go.  Put your TV's on Ch. 3 or 4 for reception and you should be set.

8) Well, I told you it looked like crud...

Actually, this ain't so bad if all you're doing is standard toaster production.
It'll get you by.  But I can't imagine doing lightwave with this setup!

BTW, when the toaster boots up it runs a signal-setup routine that allows it to
adjust its inputs and outputs for proper video timing.  This is needed for the
switcher program to run correctly.  If you don't have your equipment attached to the
toaster when you boot it, it can't make those adjustments and may not display its
signal properly.  I believe there's a section in the manual that goes into this in
more detail...

Finally, do not think that you'll be able to do professional video productions with
this type of setup.  Without proper displays and signal monitors
(waveform/vectorscope) you'll never be able to tell if you're video is good or
bad...and most of the time it WILL be bad!  If you can afford it, go on and get you
some video monitors and a vectorscope, learn how to use 'em (maybe find a
television engineer to help ya) and go from there...




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typhoto ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Isn't it time to end this thread yet?

Isn't it time to explore your newsreader's kill file abilities if you find
a thread that chronically disappoints you? Who the hell are you to decide
anything?

Also: where the hell IS Mojo, anyway?


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Rick May ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Motion capture has been around for quite a while.. Pixar wouldnt use motion
: capture then or now- it isnt animation...

Actually, I have found that when motion capture is used for any kind of
animation, the animators depend too heavily upon its use, and the
animation quality suffers (the 3-D character DOZO is a good example of this).
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Walter (Jay) Turberville ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >        I need help with Lightwave, in either:

: >        1 - Help for why Lightwave (Rev B) can no longer initialize
: >           (can't find the dongle)   could it be a system or install
: >            problem?

: For a guy who is hard up, you give pretty skimpy info.

: Did it ever work?

    I already answered that.  I said: "can no longer initialize..."

: What OS are you using?

    My mistake.  W95.

: If it did work at one time, what events occured around the
: time it stopped working.

    Recently added a color printer.

: >        2 - if no soultion is there, I need a crack.
: >            (and don't you other other guys bother giving me
: >            crap about it... I have a business to run, and I'm hard
: >            down now....)

: Nobody likes the dongle.  Probably not even NewTek.  But most of dislike
: pirating more.  Running a business on one copy/unit of anything is risky.  You
: should have redundancy/backups etc.  You operate without redundancy at your
: own peril.

    You are making bold and incorrect assumptions here.  You do not
    know my situation, and are not in a position to lecture.

    I have 4 workstations, only one of which is intel.  I have
    Amiga Toaster systems for the others.

    YOu may not be aware that Amiga 4.0 is only about to become
    available... and so they are all at 3.5
:
: >        Lastly, to those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this...
: >        to hell with you.  What good is being a _loyal_ LW user since
: >        0.9x Beta Toaster, if the protection will prevent me from using
: >        the software I paid for.(Look for the '10 Reasons I hate NewTek' list
: >        on my web site soon.)
: >        Regretfully,
: >        -mp-

: Calling NewTek bastards is not a very smart way to get help here.

    Read what I said again.  I specifically cursed the decision
    makers at NewTek, not NewTek as a whole.

    I have been a long-time supporter of NewTek from their earliest
    days (anyone remember digiview?)

  I certainly
: have my quibbles with NewTek, but I don't hate them - not by a long shot.

    Nor do I.... again, you are making assumptions, I think.

: What good is being a rude jerk when asking for help.

    I made a vary nice request for assistance from the good readership
    here while also blowing off a little steam at *clearly* indentfied
    folks in Topeka.

  Answers for dongle
: problems have been posted ad nauseum here.  I would normally be happy to post
: some of the things to check, but your attitude sucks and I could care less if
: you ever get the program up and running.

    And you call *me* rude?  _Again_, I made a request for help
    from those here without being rude to anyone here.... are you
    related to Tim or something?

  I hope others here feel the same
: way.  Call NewTek tech support.  Besides, it is an interesting leap from "I
: have dongle problems" to a posting a request for a software crack.

    No, it's not.  I know.  I've just been down that path.  Just hope
    that you are not stranded between different versions of a
    program... under deadline, and have a dongle shut you down...




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From: [e-mail] (Michael Whitten)
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In article <4d1ql8$[e-mail]>,
Emmanuel Olympia  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>    Just a newbie question:  Is there software that can convert imagine
>objects into lightwave objects?  Thanks
>
>Emmanuel Olympia

Dust does this very nicely.  Its crippled shareware on Aminet in gfx/3d, but
the conversion stuff is intact, I believe.  It does a rather complete job
- with LW Surfaces equating to Imagine Sub-Groups.  Speedy, too.

Michael

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From: [e-mail] (arron hocking)
Subject: FYI: AVI save bug fix under Win 95
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I recently spoke to a NewTek tech, and he told me that when Lightwave
Rev C is installed under Win 95 (possibly also under other OS's) it
overwrites the Microsoft Multimedia dll's.  I experienced that every
time that I wanted to render to an AVI, I would get an invalid page
fault, and windows would shut down LW.  To remedy this situation, use
the add/remove software utility under controll panel, remove the
multimedia package, reinstall it, and reboot.  Things worked fine for
me after that.

- [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
Date: 12 Jan 1996 05:46:55 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:


: |>
: |>>        I need help with Lightwave, in either:
: |>
: |>>        1 - Help for why Lightwave (Rev B) can no longer initialize
: |>>           (can't find the dongle)   could it be a system or install
: |>>            problem?
: |>
: |>For a guy who is hard up, you give pretty skimpy info.  Did it ever work? What
: |>OS are you using?  If it did work at one time, what events occured around the
: |>time it stopped working.
:  BL>   This makes sense to me. Without any of the above it is pretty hard to
:  BL   offere a solution.

    Incorrect.  I have received good advice in email... but not from
    anyone answering in the group....

    I have already indicated that it was working....

    My fault for omitting that I'm using W95.

    But none of this prevents you from _trying_ to assist...


: |>
: |>>        2 - if no soultion is there, I need a crack.
: |>>            (and don't you other other guys bother giving me
: |>>            crap about it... I have a business to run, and I'm hard
: |>>            down now....)
: |>
: |>
: |>>        Lastly, to those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this...
: |>>        to hell with you.  What good is being a _loyal_ LW user since
: |>>        0.9x Beta Toaster, if the protection will prevent me from using
: |>>        the software I paid for.(Look for the '10 Reasons I hate NewTek' list
: |>>        on my web site soon.)
: |>>        Regretfully,
: |>>        -mp-
: |>
: BL>Aside from the above what would a 0.9x beta toaster user need with a dongle,
: BL>I thought the toaster was the dongle. If my business were down, I'd have
: BL> called NewTek by now. I don't see reference of that happening here.

    So?

    Think, man, think.  Have you *ever* tried to get tech support?
    I made several calls, left messages, and generally spent a lot
    of time and money on hold.  I learned long ago that the good
    readership here are *very* good at giving advice.... better
    than NewTek generally, and much faster.

    (I eventyally did get through today....)

: BL>You could always go to 3DS, but gee they use a dongle also! At any rate I
: BL>don't think the .exe for LW is the problem. If it were a simple install
: BL>should solve it.

    The dongle is apparently the problem.

    -Mike Powell-

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
Date: 12 Jan 1996 05:57:27 GMT
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Equinox II ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >I hope others here feel the same
: >way.  Call NewTek tech support.  Besides, it is an interesting leap from
: >"I have dongle problems" to a posting a request for a software crack.

: >Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]

: I'll second that!!!  One less bozo competitor ruining the business as far
: as I'm concerned.  It's bad enough that everyone who bought a copy now
: thinks they are a business; now everyone who has/is trying to crack the
: program now thinks they are too.

    Look.... you guys are making rude assumptions here, and besides,
    I specifically asked that these kind of responses *not* be made.

    I have workstations with somewhat incompatible versions
    of Lightwave... (amiga 3.5 vs. Intel 4.0)... the Amiga 4.0
    versions are *late*, the dongle on my lone 4.0 system
    is dead.  I am under deadline.

    I've been in the animation business for almost 10 years, and
    was one of the earliest users of Allen Hastings first animation
    program, Videoscape... (and have stuck with him ever since) and
    have done work for more productions than I can remember, written
    for Lightwave Pro, etc.

    I would be very surprised if you had a similar record.

    If you think it's your place to call serious animators
    "bozo's" on this group, well, I can't stop you.... I can only
    suggest that you are being thoughtlessly rude, and are helping
    no one.


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From: [e-mail] (ReplicaTch)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: PR: NewTek ends license of Syndesis translators
Date: 11 Jan 1996 11:12:44 -0500
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::::::::::>> In the same thread on the LW plug-in mailing list, on 05 Jan
96 13:28:33 EST,
Mike Reed <[e-mail]> of Unlimited Potential, Inc. wrote:

>I'm not sure the public realizes how small this market really is and
>how much advertising costs. >>::::::::::::

This is painfully true. It's also exactly why we expanded our product line
to other applications on the Mac & PC. There's just not enough fish with
money to make the plug-in market swim on just one app.

Keith Lango
Director Mac 3D Development
REPLICA Technology
"Affordable, Quality 3D models"

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From: [e-mail] (David Oxley)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:40:13 +0000
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I'm thinking big changes, here...  Some may already have been suggested,
in which case I second them ;-)  I've sent this to NewTek's suggestions
list, but haven't heard anything yet.

--

Integrate Layout and Modeler in one program.  You can then work directly
on your scene, and modifications to objects can be done without having to:
save object, jump back to Modeler, reload the object, modify it, save it,
jump to Layout, replace object.  Modeler's layers should be available for
working on certain objects and for booleans.  Modeler would no longer need
Fori's Powerview, because you would use Layout to render previews.  Or
Powerview could become a plug-in for Layout!

Implement a hierarchical object selection window (like in Real 3D and
other programs).  It would make the parent relationships easy to see, and
with standard cut and paste functions, it would make them easy to maintain
rather than having to remember whose parent is what.

Improve the ease of texture mapping.  Implement textures as "standalone
objects" that can be moved, scaled and rotated, and remove the dependence
on named polygons.  You would have a flat plane object for projection
mapping, a cylinder for cylindrical, a ball for spherical, a cube for
cubic mapping.  A texture's position in the object hierarchy would
determine the objects it is applied to.  This allows for multiple textures
by simply placing further textures in the appropriate level in the
hierarchy.  For backward compatibility, allow textures to apply to named
polygons by setting a flag in the texture, the object or globally.

Redo the wireframe drawing routines so that moving an object at least
leaves a ghost image of the scene for reference so that alignment is
easier to judge.  The screen can then redraw fully, if necessary, when the
mouse button is released.

Thanks for reading.

|David Oxley, Logica UK|SH5/HR 75 Hampstead Rd|[phone]x1800|
|<[e-mail]> |London NW1 2PL England|[phone](fax)|
`----------------------^----------------------^--------------------'
All opinions expressed are mine not Logica's. http://www.logica.com/

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
Date: 12 Jan 1996 06:11:08 GMT
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    Well.... after surviving three thoughtless non-responses
    to my original post, I'll try to sum up with some actual
    information that might be of some use to others....

    I finally got through to NewTek tech support, and discussed
    the problem with them.  They say that they have received
    a growing number of dongles that have 'gone bad'.  Their
    theory is that some peripherals are stomping on parts
    of the code that reside in the dongle's eprom.... causing
    them not to work.

    I transported my dongle and disk to another system and
    verified that the dongle is indeed no longer functioning.

    NewTek has been able to flush and re-code the dongles and send
    them back (for free) but they cannot guarantee that it
    won't happen again, and recommend that dongles not be
    used with peripherals (there goes the pass-thru!)

    They offered no other solution.

    So... my dongle goes back tomorrow... hopefully back in a
    week....

    Meanwhile, a crack is the only way I'm going to be able to
    render with the software I purchased.

    This kind of thing should never have to happen, but can
    anyone explain why pirates are right now rendering away, while
    legitimate animators are unable to?

    The tech tells ne that LW 4.0 pirate CD's are available
    for $5 in Taiwan... and I've paid thousands, and am shut down.

    Please explain again to me what a bozo I am.

    Mike Powell

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: PR: NewTek ends license of Syndesis translators
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Would Newtek include one page flyers/order forms for Interchange+ and
>your CD's in new shipments and upgrade shipments?

I'll look beyond my own self-interest and state the obvious that
it would benefit all plug-in developers and third-party developers
in general.  It would be a very low-cost way of promoting LightWave
and the life in its add-on market.  It might add an ounce or two
to a package that weighs several pounds already.  It's common
in many other 3D packages to get a packet of literature from
third-party vendors.  I know Syndesis literature and/or a description
of our products is included with several Mac and PC 3D programs,
and it has served us quite well.

You need to ask NewTek why they don't do this.  It's quite late in
the game to start doing this, seeing that the inevitable initial
rush of sales has passed.  There are other things they could do
that other companies do, such as allowing add-on makers to send
out literature in a "blind mailing" to all dealers or registered
users, through a third-party mailing house at cost so that the
developer doesn't actually get a copy of the mailing list in question.

- John



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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LW40
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Jp@ (WunderKin) wrote:
>is the a way to target an object with another object like you would
>with the camera or light?

    Nothing for the PC, yet, that I know of.
    Amiga version, however, there's a nifty little
    program called "Point At", from the makers
    of "Sparks", MetroGrafx.

    Jon Tindall has done a nice job on this program,
    as well as "Wobbler" and a few others.
    [phone]

    Dan Ablan
    AGA Digital Studios
    C h i c a g o




>



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Subject: Re: Free 3d Models
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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>Plus for an even more limited time all you 3D
>animators and artists (any one like that out there
>interested in dataset models?) can get a free
>surprise gift just for you!!!

Yes, the suprise gift is an all expenses paid(if you have an attorney
appointed you...) 6 month stay in the county jail.  Just like Club Med
with free meals, activities(no water skiing) and lots of time getting to
know the other prize winners...



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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Smith)
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Subject: Re: WANTED: Sheep Object!!
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In article <4d18c7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Taka Torimoto) writes:
>>>> I am looking for a sheep object...

>So... anyone know where I can get a sheep object?!  PLEASE?!
>
>-Taka


Emm. No. But, if you can get hold of "Close Shave" by Ardman animations (a clay
model animation featuring Wallace and Grommet (of "Wrong Trousers" fame: won an
oscer last year) it has a truly COOL sheep in it (many sheep actually). I'd
model my sheep round that if I were you. baaaaa.

Stu

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Stu's Rule of Thumb:
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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Subject: Re: Animation Master 4 Features!
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Hi Stephen;

 I was hoping that you could e-mail me the faq on the Animation Master?
it sounds pretty darn awesome to me. I want to know what your oppinion is on
that software vs. LW. See, I am planning to get started doing animations in LW
and get my own business started. I also cuurently own a PowerMac 7100/66 with
40 megs RAM and 500 megs internal HD with 1 gig external HD. I have been
learning some with StudioPro and the old Infini-D........


thanx.............md :)

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Colors
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[e-mail] (Shana Fox) wrote:

>OK, I know this is a really stupid question to ask but, I have access
>to a Video Toaster version 3.1 for amiga.  If I do a scroll page for
>credits, is there a way to have one line or character be one color and
>another to be a diffferent color.  When I highlight even one letter it
>changes the color of the entire page.  It doesn't work like a regular
>CG page.  Can someone help me with this. Thankyou


I don't think I have ever seen a Scroll with more than 1 color. Check
out some movie credits.They might have changed it in 4.0,but it is not
out on the market yet.



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From: Kreg Branden <[e-mail]>
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Greetings Humans!,

   We, Meme-X (developers of Lock & Key), have set up a new web page as
a resource list of Plug-Ins for LightWave 3D.  By using primitive
communications tools (like the 'Internet' and 'web browsers') you can
recieve information units describing these wonderful new products.
   To go to the LightWave Plug-In Page:

       http://www.teleport.com/~memex/lwpipage.htm

   Or if you prefer the scenic route:

       http://www.teleport.com/~memex


   The page is updated as developers submit their product information
units.  Submission guidelines are easily digestible and are available
for download at the bottom of the page.  This is a free service for
LightWave 3D Plug-In developers.

  The LightWave Plug-In Page is not associated with NewTek, Inc.   But
we did link to their page, so maybe they could link to ours..?


   Thank you,

      Meme-X

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From: Adam Hendershot <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: simple question from a newbie.
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Eric J Fleischer, MD wrote:
>
> Mathew Davis <mathew> wrote:
>
> >i've spent today
> >plugging away ot my first day using
> >lightwave
> >
> >i have a thirty day trial version that
> >doesn't come with
> >any manuals
>
>    The common parlance for such a version is a pirated version,
> Mathew. In other words, you are using stolen software. There is no
> "thirty day trial version".  You are not likely to get help from us
> paying users.
>
> <ELF> - Dr Gandalf - Eric J Fleischer, MD
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]

  Didn't I read somewhere that there's a 30 day trial version for the
SGI?

Adam (the other one)

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Tracing bitmaps into LW objects
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In article <4cvirp$[e-mail]>, Eddie
<[e-mail]> writes:

>Can you tell me more about PolyForm?
>Is it a shareware?
>
>

PolyForm, from Vivid Technologies, auto-traces scanned logos, converts
color PostScript files and fonts to 3D, loads and saves 20 file formats
(LWO, DXF, COB, etc.).  Runs on Windows 3.x, 95, and NT.

PolyForm is not shareware; list price is $299.  They will send you a demo
if you call 800-962-7659 or 414-641-0520.

Hope this helps,
Marc

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From: [e-mail] (William A. Mendez )
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Subject: Matrox Card with Powerview Plug-in?
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Hello,

I would like to know if any of you are using Any Matrox card with the
Powerview plug-in, and how is the performance.

Also is the screen redraw in modeler any faster with the matrox.

Thanks!
Will Mendez

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Amiga Modeler got AREXX Macros !

What about PC Modeler ??????????????????????????????????


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From: John Mark Roquemore <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: martianp an breakup
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I don't how to work the breakup plugin but it is suppose to make bits
and pieces of an object. The martianp plugin just make random little
things that look good on the side of spaceships( I like this one alot).

Hope that helps,

John Mark Roquemore
net: [e-mail]


Thies Uhl wrote:
>
> What does the martiap and the breakup plugin for the modeler do?
>
> -Thies-

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In article <4d3tl3$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
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|>From: [e-mail]
|>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
|>Subject: Re: Label on a Bottle
|>>  I'm looking for help placing what would be a "label" on the front of
|>>a glass bottle.  Currently I have been trying to us the Drill/Stencil
|>>technique.  The only problem is that with the bottle being glass the
|>>label appears the width of the glass, so it looks more like something
|>>set in the glass than a label on top of it.  Hopefully that made
|>>sense.  When I select only the outermost faces on the front of the
|>>bottle to be affected by the Drill, the label texture doesn't appear,
|>>it just looks like another section of the bottle.  Help from anyone
|>>who's done something similar to this would be greatly appreciated
|>
|>>   Todd LeMoine
|>>   -Liquid Visions-
|>
|> Todd,
|>    I have used this function in the past and selected only the outer/upper
   surface to apply the stencil to. Did you create a seperate surface for your
   lable ? You should be able to apply the stencil to just the outer surface.
|> What direction were the normals on your stencil facing?
|>
|> -bill

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From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
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Subject: Re: Anim to Video
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:38:51 GMT
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typhoto <[e-mail]> wrote:

>me wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (Rich Comber) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>>
>> >As a new owner of LW4.0, my goal is to develop my skills and eventually
>> >produce a demo tape of my work.  There is alot of professional experience
>> >here on this group and so ...   I'm looking for a low cost (<$500) solution to
>> >move my anims to video.  Enough to show off my work.  I'm looking for
>> >suggestions on hardware/software (intel platform).   I'm currently using a
>> >5x86-120 w/32MB RAM, 1.2GB HD running Win NT 3.51.
>>
>> >BTW - I'm in the NW burbs of Chicago.  Any users or LW usergroups in the area?
>>
>> >Thanks in advance for the advice!
>>
>> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Rich Comber <[e-mail]>        "The only bad day you have is the
>> >                                       one you'll never get to see."
>>
>> There are no low cost solutions. Either a single frame recorder (in
>> excess of $1000.00 or a PAR with good HD in excess of $2,000.00 thats
>> your choice.


Please don't laugh at this question <G>...has anyone tried using a PC
to Video encoder?  They cost less than $500.  They're not as pro as
the PAR but it's a start, isn't it?

Chris



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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver) writes:
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|>From: [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver)
|>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
|>Subject: Re: Help w/ Boolean Subtract!!
|>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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|>In <4cv478$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Adam Ruminer) wrote:
|>
|>>When ever I boolean subtract an object from another object I have
|>>beveled or performed any other tweeking to, the object to be
|>>subtracted from looks like the cuts are made, but when I go to render
|>>the object, it renders totally intact (no boolean effect) - even
|>>though I can see the cuts in the wireframe. What am I doing wrong?
|>>Any suggestions welcome!!!
|>
|> I find working with beveled objects can be a pain. Taks a simple plane
    bevel it and look at surfaces in the modeler. I often find the surface
   is on the botom of the bevel, the top polygon does not show. if you bevel a
   disk this is not noticable. I have made a copy of the original surface,
   did my bevel, the I flip the normals on the top surface and cut and paste
   it back. this helps. The other suggestions about making sure your background
   objects is properly placed is also good advice.

   -bill

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric J Fleischer, MD) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Eric J Fleischer, MD)
>Subject: Re: simple question from a newbie.
>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 01:35:00 GMT

>Mathew Davis <mathew> wrote:

>>i've spent today
>>plugging away ot my first day using
>>lightwave
>>
>>i have a thirty day trial version that
>>doesn't come with
>>any manuals

>   The common parlance for such a version is a pirated version,
>Mathew. In other words, you are using stolen software. There is no
>"thirty day trial version".  You are not likely to get help from us
>paying users.


><ELF> - Dr Gandalf - Eric J Fleischer, MD
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

That was my thought also, but then someone else posted that they had a 30 day
SGI trial package.  I think this type of package trialing is somewhat common
on the SGI.  So - can anybody confirm or deny that there is an SGI package
like this?


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: [e-mail] (Steven Johansen)
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[e-mail] (peter carlsson) writes:

>I go crazy

>is there any one how can explain in modeler how i use the function PATCH.
>I have tryed many different method. but the answere is still curves do not
>cross correctly.

>Please send me a answer, if you now some way.

>thanks in advance

>Peter

>Answer to:
>[e-mail]



    Have you tried reading the manual.


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From: [e-mail] (Steven Johansen)
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    Lloyd,a gentle suggestion

Hit the return key a bit more often.

A lot of newsreading software doesn't handle line lengths over roughly this*

    Steven

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Furlong)
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Is there such a thing forLightwave?  I want a 24 bit color output with
8 bit alpha channel in one file.  Is the only way to achieve this by
 compositing the two files after rendering?  I'm especially interested
 in a non-lossy 32 bit (w alpha channel) animation format.

Thanks
Chuck Furlong

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From: [e-mail] (Thies Uhl)
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I want to save an animation, but i can do everything nothing happened. i
have lightwave 3d 4.0 intel on a win95 platform. Does anybody know the
problem and can help me?

-Thies-

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: How to get backgrounds..LW4.0(PC)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ray Dyer) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Ray Dyer)
>Subject: How to get backgrounds..LW4.0(PC)
>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:35:54 GMT


> I have Lightwave 4.0 for the IBM-PC...is there a way to put a background in?
>I see it in one of the menus..but when I click on the Background bar it keeps
>saying (None) ..all the time..thanks greatly!

Load an image using the image panel.  After doing that, Lightwave will present
you with a list containing that image (and any others loaded) when you click
on the background bar.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
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>Check out Impact for collision detection and dynamics and Sparks for
>particles.

      Also, a new program called Particle Storm, from
      the makers of Impact! is on the way.

      Dan


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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
Date: 11 Jan 1996 20:39:28 -0500
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>I hope others here feel the same
>way.  Call NewTek tech support.  Besides, it is an interesting leap from
>"I have dongle problems" to a posting a request for a software crack.

>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
>Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

I'll second that!!!  One less bozo competitor ruining the business as far
as I'm concerned.  It's bad enough that everyone who bought a copy now
thinks they are a business; now everyone who has/is trying to crack the
program now thinks they are too.
--Brian

Equinox Images, Inc.
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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>From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
>Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
>Date: 12 Jan 1996 05:39:13 GMT

>Walter (Jay) Turberville ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: >        I need help with Lightwave, in either:

>: >        1 - Help for why Lightwave (Rev B) can no longer initialize
>: >           (can't find the dongle)   could it be a system or install
>: >            problem?

>: For a guy who is hard up, you give pretty skimpy info.
>: Did it ever work?
>        I already answered that.  I said: "can no longer initialize..."
>: What OS are you using?
>        My mistake.  W95.
>: If it did work at one time, what events occured around the
>: time it stopped working.
>        Recently added a color printer.

Is LW failing to initialize with the printer disconnected or is it failing
when the dongle is the only device attached.  Is your printer port the only
port on that I/O device?  I have had a printer card actually come unplugged
from the ISA slot.  There was no serial or disk I/O on that card so there was
no other external indication of the problem.  Check the Device Manager for the
status of your parallel port.  I haven't heard of a printer driver causing a
problem, so I doubt if that is the trouble.  You didn't plug the printer into
the dongle with either the printer or PC turned on did you?

>: >        2 - if no soultion is there, I need a crack.
>: >            (and don't you other other guys bother giving me
>: >            crap about it... I have a business to run, and I'm hard
>: >            down now....)

>: Nobody likes the dongle.  Probably not even NewTek.  But most of dislike
>: pirating more.  Running a business on one copy/unit of anything is risky.  You
>: should have redundancy/backups etc.  You operate without redundancy at your
>: own peril.

>        You are making bold and incorrect assumptions here.  You do not
>        know my situation, and are not in a position to lecture.

Well - I know something about your situation and it is enough to support my
assumptions and statement (the exception would be my statement that nobody
likes the dongle - its possible that someone does.) Your post said you were
down hard.  That means nothing works.  My statement about backups and
redundancy are accurate.  If you had a second PC or copy of LightWave, you
wouldn't have been down hard.  The advice about redundancy is appropriate.

>        I have 4 workstations, only one of which is
intel.  I have
>        Amiga Toaster systems for the others.
>        YOu may not be aware that Amiga 4.0 is only about to become
>        available... and so they are all at 3.5

So YOU or your business is not down hard - just LightWave on the PC.

>: >        Lastly, to those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this...
>: >        to hell with you.  What good is being a _loyal_ LW user since
>: >        0.9x Beta Toaster, if the protection will prevent me from using
>: >        the software I paid for.(Look for the '10 Reasons I hate NewTek' list
>: >        on my web site soon.)
>: >        Regretfully,
>: >        -mp-
>: Calling NewTek bastards is not a very smart way to get help here.
>        Read what I said again.  I specifically cursed the decision
>        makers at NewTek, not NewTek as a whole.

I just did read it again.  "Those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this"
does not specifically refer to the decision makers.  That would refer to
anyone involved in the process.  Besides - calling someone a bastard for
making a reasonable business decision is unwarranted.

>        I have been a long-time supporter of NewTek from their earliest
>        days (anyone remember digiview?)
>  I certainly
>: have my quibbles with NewTek, but I don't hate them - not by a long shot.
>        Nor do I.... again, you are making assumptions, I think.

Well when you say you are going to be posting a list about the "10 reasons
I hate NewTek" what the hell do you expect me to assume?  The statement was
not juxtaposed in such a way for me to expect that you were joking.  Is that
your claim now?

 >  >: What good is being a rude jerk when asking for help.
>        I made a vary nice request for assistance from the good readership
>        here while also blowing off a little steam at *clearly* indentfied
>        folks in Topeka.

There was nothing nice or even very nice about your original request.  At best
it is merely blunt about your needs.  There was no "please".  There was not
"thank-you".  It was all about your needs.  Calling people bastards and
expressing hate for people is generally not considered nice.  The good
readership you refer to includes some of these people you were berating.

>  Answers for dongle
>: problems have been posted ad nauseum here.  I would normally be happy to post
>: some of the things to check, but your attitude sucks and I could care less if
>: you ever get the program up and running.

>        And you call *me* rude?  _Again_, I made a request for help
>        from those here without being rude to anyone here.... are you
>        related to Tim or something?

I called it like you presented it.  Do you really think your post might have
been polite?  Really?

>>  I hope others here feel the same
>: way.  Call NewTek tech support.  Besides, it is an interesting leap from "I
>: have dongle problems" to a posting a request for a software crack.

>        No, it's not.  I know.  I've just been down that path.  Just hope
>        that you are not stranded between different versions of a
>        program... under deadline, and have a dongle shut you down...

Yes it is.

I have two dongles (licenses) - I expect to get a third soon.  I have done the
testing necessary (and posted the info here BTW) on how to get a scene to
render using ScreamerNet II without a control program.  I also have the
numbers of a number of companies that carry LightWave and am prepared to call
and get a copy of LightWave overnighted if the situation is critical.  I hope
I don't get stuck with a dead dongle either.  But this is a situation that
is a known possibility and I have taken steps to guard against it.

There are a lot of people here, myself included who are sympathetic with the
problems the dongle presents and with the problems of trying to operate a
business.  But your post was mostly a bitch about NewTek and didn't give
hardly any information about what your situation was.  So even if someone
really wanted to help you, you made it more difficult by not giving good
information about your situation and how you got there.  For instance, if you
were depending on the PC for rendering scenes that you were creating on the
Amiga, there is a way to render on the PC without the dongle.  It is a pain in
the butt, but it can be done.  But all you had to say was that your PC was
down hard.

Of course, you are free to behave as you wish.  But you have to live with the
results.  Your choice.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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[snip]
>>> >move my anims to video.  Enough to show off my work.  I'm looking for
>>> >suggestions on hardware/software (intel platform).   I'm currently using a
>>> >5x86-120 w/32MB RAM, 1.2GB HD running Win NT 3.51.
>>>
>>> >BTW - I'm in the NW burbs of Chicago.  Any users or LW usergroups in the
>area?
>>>
>>> >Thanks in advance for the advice!
>>>
>>> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Rich Comber <[e-mail]>        "The only bad day you have is the
>>> >                                       one you'll never get to see."
>>>

Is that the Cyrix 5x86?  If so, would you post a benchmark of the textures
example scene with the default settings?

TIA

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Label on a Bottle
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[e-mail] wrote:
>[e-mail] (Todd LeMoine) wrote:
>
>>  I'm looking for help placing what would be a "label" on the front of
>>a glass bottle.  Currently I have been trying to us the Drill/Stencil
>>technique.  The only problem is that with the bottle being glass the
>>label appears the width of the glass, so it looks more like something
>>set in the glass than a label on top of it.  Hopefully that made
>>sense.  When I select only the outermost faces on the front of the
>>bottle to be affected by the Drill, the label texture doesn't appear,
>>it just looks like another section of the bottle.  Help from anyone
>>who's done something similar to this would be greatly appreciated
>
>>   Todd LeMoine
>>   -Liquid Visions-
>
>Why don't you make the label in a paint program,and map it on?





     Or, try renaming the surfaces.
     Dan




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From: [e-mail] (Vincent Veldhoven)
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From: [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
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David Koegler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I would like to take the leap and invest in an Avid editing system with a
>PwerMac.  I have an Amiga 2000 with a 44MB Syquest removable hard drive.
>I would like to be able to send Lightwave-rendered animationfiles over to
>the Avid system.  Has anyone had experience with this?  I would be
>grateful for any help.

Our company is also swinging towards this method.

We've figured out that the best by far way to do this is using the
PERCEPTION card's component output straight into the AVID's component
input. (We don't know much about the AVID, but are planning to
purchase one sometime this year.)

Other methods include networking the computers and hoping the AVID can
take a sequence of TARGA or other format files directly and play it as
if it were digitized video footage.

I think the component out/in is not a bad way to go. This will be one
generation closer to original than single-framing to betacam and
re-digitizing into AVID.

But since we're just speculating, as you are, we're not absolutely
certain that this will be the best way to transfer animation.

Perhaps someone out there has actually done this?

Sean Huxter
[e-mail]
http://www.cabot.nf.ca/~sean


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What does the martiap and the breakup plugin for the modeler do?

-Thies-

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Shandony)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Stephen Chan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>If you have any questions about Animation Master or it's little brother
>Martin Hash's Animation (MHA), I'll be happy to forward a miniFAQ that
>I've written on the currently available v3, which I will be updating soon
>to include the features from v4 once they are totally finalized.

Will version 4 have a printed manual?  I am still having trouble with
version 3!

-Michael

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Joe Perez wrote:
>
> Tyson Heil <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >> same here, I subscribed 3 months ago and not a word
> >>
> >> but my vtu keeps rollin in
> >Most of us who subscribe to LightwavePro love the magazine but it has recently been quite a bit
> >later than normal. I know that John and the guys are awful busy as well. It is worth the wait,
> >just gotta be patient, but go ahead and call them confirming your subscription if your worried.
>
> I would be a better situation if the folks at AVID started putting the
> issue of expiration on the mailing label. Missing a month or two and
> then getting a issue throws off ability to quickly figure out how many
> more issues you have coming to you.
>
> Joe Perez


I think we would all agree with that idea.

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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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On 08-Jan-96 15:48:13, leelee ([e-mail]) posted:

> Has anyone out there managed to network an Amiga with a PC so that the
> amiga drive (or PAR card drive in my case) appears as a drive in the
> PC enviroment. This would allow me to render direct from LW on the PC
> to the PAR card on the Amiga. If someone has mangaed to do this I
> would appreiciate some help.

> I have a NE2000 in the PC and an Ariadne in the Amiga 2000. I'm
> running windows NT 3.51 and currently use AMitcp to transfer files
> manually.

> Don.....

>

If you have AmiTCP and Samba on your Amiga, you can do this. There is a FAQ
for this on our web page.

--
      ______________________________________________________________
     /     John Crookshank         | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \
    |  MicroTech Solutions, Inc.   | Lightwave 3D, Toaster/Flyer     |
    | Desktop Video Systems Dealer | JVC Professional Video Products |
    | NewTek Systems Group Dealer  | PVR, Speed Razor, Amiga Dealer  |
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Hrgtn)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Rev C patch.
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Anybody else having problems downloading the patch from Newtek, or is it
just my local provider that I'm having problems with.  I have no problems
accessing their ftp site, and can even download files, but for some reason
the system hangs when I try to download the patch.

Any ideas?

Bill

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From: [e-mail] (Carp3D)
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Subject: Re: Connecting Amiga to PC
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Yes Yes the twin express sounds good
I have an A2000 w/3.1os and a PC running win95.
How much does the program cost and can you buy the cable or do you have to
build it and how much would that be?

Thanks Again.....

Carp3D  Editor/Animator...
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From: [e-mail] (Carp3D)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
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It's a double negative.!   You'll never see  "irregardless"  in any
dictionary, EVER!


sorry just couldn't help my self..
Carp3D  Editor/Animator...
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
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typhoto <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Michael Powell wrote:
>>
>>         Hi all...
>>
>>         I need help with Lightwave, in either:
>>
>>         1 - Help for why Lightwave (Rev B) can no longer initialize
>>            (can't find the dongle)   could it be a system or install
>>             problem?
>>
>>         2 - if no soultion is there, I need a crack.
>>             (and don't you other other guys bother giving me
>>             crap about it... I have a business to run, and I'm hard
>>             down now....)
>>
>>
>>         Lastly, to those bastards at NewTek that dongleized this...
>>         to hell with you.  What good is being a _loyal_ LW user since
>>         0.9x Beta Toaster, if the protection will prevent me from using
>>         the software I paid for.
>>
>>         (Look for the '10 Reasons I hate NewTek' list on my web site
>>          soon.)
>>
>>         Regretfully,
>>
>>         -mp-


You idiots are so fucking funny,You should be getting fired-up over a
cute red-head! not somebody's problem,I think I will e-mail this guy
the crack just to piss you knuckleHeads off.Btw I made over
82,576.00 last year using Lw,does that make me a Pro?
Well; gotta go back to the Living. ALSO; guy's, really,get a
life!




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From: [e-mail] (Thies Uhl)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: lightwave user
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Hi,

is somebody out who works (with lightwave) and lives in germany?

-Thies-

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Subject: 3D object of male head and bust needed
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Please help me locate a 3D object of a male head and bust for a
Lightwave annimation I need to do.  Ideally I'd like to download it but
I'll take it any way I can get it.

Thanks for any help.



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I'm trying create from scratch a human head and bust object on
Lightwave 3.1 but I'm having trouble.

I would appreciate any suggestions on any steps to take and tools to
use to create this object.

Thanks in advance for any tips.


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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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C:APPSWEBWINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article: <4d4s61$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Michael Powell) writes:

:  under deadline, and have a dongle shut you down...
: >

: I am, I have, and I`m also in UK and not looking forward to the best part of a month for the
: turnaround - but hey, life`s a bitch.

: Gwynne.

    Yikes!  But, hey.... don't you feel all warm inside knowing that
    pirates in the thousands are rendering away right now... on software
    that didn't cost them a cent?  And all you get is a one month
    unpaid 'vacation'.

    Yea.... makes me feel just grand.  Then I come here looking for
    some help, and get shit on.

    Life is indeed a bitch.

    Regards,

    -mp-

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From: [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld)
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It's wriiten on the label of the CDROM.

Don Hirschfeld    http://www.portal.com/~donrh  CHECK IT OUT!!

**************************************************************
---------------------------------------------------------------
I'm using Intel LW4.0 trying to upgrade to Rev C . How do I
know which patch program to use for I don't even know which
revision mine is. Is it writen somewhere that I've overlook?
I don't seem to fine it anywhere in the manuals & readme files.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!

Eddie Quah

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From: [e-mail] (Carp3D)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: WTB: PAR for Amiga
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I have a loaded A2000 w/to many things to list
I also have a Amiga PAR w/the latest software direct from DPS
I'm selling both the PAR and the Segate 525mg drive ( about 5 min
Animtation time).  I'm still considering price.    I paid 2400.00 when I
bought them, haven't ever had a problem.  Make me an offer.

Chris
Carp3D  Editor/Animator...
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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On 09-Jan-96 12:42:54, Shana Fox <[e-mail]> wrote:
>OK, I know this is a really stupid question to ask but, I have access
>to a Video Toaster version 3.1 for amiga.  If I do a scroll page for
>credits, is there a way to have one line or character be one color and
>another to be a diffferent color.  When I highlight even one letter it
>changes the color of the entire page.  It doesn't work like a regular
>CG page.  Can someone help me with this. Thankyou

  Not really a Lightwave question, but there isn't a separate Toaster
group, is there?

  You can only do 1 color on scroll pages in 3.1.  I haven't looked at
the info for 4.0 for a while, so I'm not sure if they changed that.  It
would be nice.

  If 4.0 doesn't have it, then some other titling software could do it.
But I don't see a technical reason why you couldn't at least have
different colors on different lines, the way the Amiga coprocessor
allows palette changes.

<tsb>--
*-___________________________________________________________________-*
Jeff Jones  email:[e-mail]   *//* Amiga Lives!
 *TFG*Starfire*Design*Studio*      *\\//*  1985-1994, born again 1995!
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From: Peter Joseph Kovach <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Animation Master 4 Features!
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Me too please.


>I've written on the currently available v3, which I will be updating soon
>to include the features from v4 once they are totally finalized.

--Could you please forward a copy of the miniFAQ to me?
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--Thanks!



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From: [e-mail] (Peter Bonjernoor)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: is there software that will convert imagine into LW objects?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 17:56:27 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Whitten) wrote:

>In article <4d1ql8$[e-mail]>,
>Emmanuel Olympia  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>    Just a newbie question:  Is there software that can convert imagine
>>objects into lightwave objects?  Thanks
>>
>>Emmanuel Olympia

>Dust does this very nicely.  Its crippled shareware on Aminet in gfx/3d, but
>the conversion stuff is intact, I believe.  It does a rather complete job
>- with LW Surfaces equating to Imagine Sub-Groups.  Speedy, too.

>Michael

>--
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Another rather simple option is to save it all in Imagine as a DXF
file, and reload in in LightWave (which also understands DXF). The
only thing you lose is texttures, which are incompatible to start with
(since LW only supports 1 texture per surface).


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From: [e-mail] (Peter Bonjernoor)
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Subject: Imagine 4.0 for the PC
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This maybe isn't the right place, but I'm looking for newsgroups, or
other places of information concerning Imagine 4.0 for the PC. Can
anyone help me?

Peter Bonjernoor


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From: [e-mail] (EnnBee)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Free 3d Models
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 19:24:55 GMT
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On 11 Jan 1996 14:14:03 GMT, I heard cgid <[e-mail]> say:

>For a limited time download any and all models
>and motion paths from any and all versions of the
>Viewpoint dataset CD-Rom for only $249.95.

>Computer Graphic Images & Design Inc.
>PO Box 230135
>Brooklyn NY, 11223
>(Please add $4.0 for shipping and handling)

Gee...This guy has GUTS!  Charging $253.95 for an ILLEGAL crack to the
Viewpoint CDs?  Gosh, I wonder why he's using a PO Box.

EnnBee


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From: matt nothelfer <[e-mail]>
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Hello,

I just wanted to perpetuate the insanity.

Thankyou.



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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How to get backgrounds..LW4.0(PC)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ray Dyer) writes:
>
>
> I have Lightwave 4.0 for the IBM-PC...is there a way to put a
background in?
>I see it in one of the menus..but when I click on the Background bar
it keeps
>saying (None) ..all the time..thanks greatly!


Don't you have the manuals?  There is whole page devoted to that
procedure.

GT


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From: [e-mail] (XTremes757)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Comm Program that has Null Modem Transfers?
Date: 13 Jan 1996 13:54:46 -0500
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I need a Comm program that has Null Modem Transfers at High Speeds. I
tryed Twin but it transfer too slow, Not sure why, I have a Amiga 2000, it
seems to transfer at 19200. My PC can transfer up to 115200. I want to use
Ripterm on my PC. Thanx

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From: [e-mail](Jeffrey R. Hammond )
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Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
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In <4d7943$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
writes:
>
>Deleted
>
>Other methods include networking the computers and hoping the AVID can
>take a sequence of TARGA or other format files directly and play it as
>if it were digitized video footage.
>
>Deleted
>
>Sean Huxter
>[e-mail]
>http://www.cabot.nf.ca/~sean
>

I can do it either way. I have my Amiga, NT Box's, and MAC (Avid)
connected by thin ethernet. I talk to each machine using TCP/IP.
As for images sequences. The Avid can take in QTime, PICS, PICT
(sequences). As of their last upgrade 5.2, you could not import targa
files.

Jeff Hammond
J. R. Animations

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From: typhoto <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> typhoto ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : Isn't it time to end this thread yet?
>
> Isn't it time to explore your newsreader's kill file abilities if you find
> a thread that chronically disappoints you? Who the hell are you to decide
> anything?
>
> Also: where the hell IS Mojo, anyway?


Who shit in your Wheeties?

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okay, now let me introduce you to an old AVI save bug ...render an avi..render teh avi
again with the same filename....now go and play the avi..your avi should show a blank
white screen..solution..everytime you generate an avi..you must exit and reload
layout..

Adam Chrystie

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From: [e-mail] (Ole Gunnar Dokka)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Matrox Card with Powerview Plug-in?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:32:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (William A. Mendez ) wrote:

>I would like to know if any of you are using Any Matrox card with the
>Powerview plug-in, and how is the performance.
The Matrox Millenium`s performance is very good, it supports OpenGL...

>Also is the screen redraw in modeler any faster with the matrox.
I had a S3 864 card befor I got the Millenium - there is really a
great difference when it comes to speed in Modeler.
But it would be even better if NewTek put support for DirectDraw or
some other API into the program, Millenium supports most of the
standards.

Highly recommended.


Regards,

Ole Gunnar Dokka

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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I am looking for a good list of Lightwave user groups from around the
world (or atleast the U.S.).  Could somebody point me in the
right
direction?  I know there is one in VTU but I am looking for something a
bit more complete than that.  If you attend one of these groups, perhaps
you can send me some e-mail with an address and a fax # (or both).  If
you know of other Lightwave user groups as well I would really appreciate
getting those too.

Thanks,

Manuel Coats
LIGHTSPEED


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Reverse Fields when going to PVR?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:32:16 GMT
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Hi All,

Just thought I'd ask if when field rendering LW 4.0 to .tga's for import
to a DPS PVR Card whether or not I need to reverse the fields.

I know I should pay my dues by testing two quick sequences, but maybe
some kind soul will save me some precious time ;-)

Please respond by email.

TIA

mhood

P.S.  Who is this Mojo person and why is he so popular?

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: AMIGA TO NT
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In <4d1vev$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>I am currently concidering upgrading to a more powerful computer to do
>my computer animation on.  I love lightwave and have version on my
>amiga 2000  I'm hesitant to upgrade now because I hear the 4.0 NT
>Lightwave is riddled with bugs. Has anyone made the switch and how
>bumpy was the transition?
>
When my Amiga 2500 finally died, I was drug kicking and screaming
onto a P60 with NT and 32meg ram.  The PVR card in the machine
adds alot, and I'm certainly no LW guru, but I find LW 4.0 on NT
as solid as it ever was on Amiga and much faster.

Of course, Lightwave is the only 3D program I have ever used
on NT so there's not much for me to compare. . .

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From: Bobby
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!
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OK,I finished a 200 frame Anim on my PC at home,all in 24bit iff
images.Now,how do I transfer them to my Amiga (PAR) 5 miles away
at work???

I can't afford a zip or syquest.Can I somehow transfer them from my
modem at home too work?? If so how  do I compress the file in LHA???

Thanks!!



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From: [e-mail] (CNelson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: MPEG HIIP?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:57:33 GMT
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As a recent immigrant to the PC platform, I have found the
realtime animation playback capabilities extremely limited
with the native hardware. AVI just doesnt cut it as far
as quality is concerned.

I have a fairly good quality mpeg card, and no way
to encode lightwave output into animations! Does anyone
know of a decent frame encoder for LightWave.

Ideally, an HIIP animation saver would solve the problem, but
(to my knowledge) no such beast exists! Does anyone know of
a *cost effective* (read:CHEAP!) solution for my Lightwave
to MPEG sadness???

Chris Nelson


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4d6lgd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CNelson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (CNelson)
>Subject: MPEG HIIP?
>Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:57:33 GMT

>As a recent immigrant to the PC platform, I have found the
>realtime animation playback capabilities extremely limited
>with the native hardware. AVI just doesnt cut it as far
>as quality is concerned.

>I have a fairly good quality mpeg card, and no way
>to encode lightwave output into animations! Does anyone
>know of a decent frame encoder for LightWave.

>Ideally, an HIIP animation saver would solve the problem, but
>(to my knowledge) no such beast exists! Does anyone know of
>a *cost effective* (read:CHEAP!) solution for my Lightwave
>to MPEG sadness???

>Chris Nelson

There are very few inexpensive MPEG solutions for the PC.  I have used a
freeware program called CMEPG successfully.  It runs in DOS only and can only
create MPEGs of up to approximately 400x300 resulution.  I made a couple of
batch files that make it easier to use and it is actually pretty quick at
compiling the MPEG.  There are some 320x240 MPEGs on our Studio WWW page.
If they seem of satisfactory quality, let me know and I will arrange to mail,
link, or ftp the program to you.



Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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Subject: Re: is there software that will convert imagine into LW objects?
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There is a similar program called t3dlib which is available on aminet and will
run on an Amiga - you will need a c compiler to get the executable, but I don't
know if it works - until I can afford Lightwave I am looking for something on
PC to do the opposite so I can convert the superb Delta Fighter off Light ROM 1
for Imagine.

Phil.


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Subject: Re: Wireframe is DEAD : QuickDraw 3D
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Hello,

[e-mail] (Marcus Ward) wrote:
>even if Macintosh
>>was the number one selling personal computer last quarter.
>
>No. Macintosh was not the #1 selling personal computer.  The IBM COMPATABLE pc
>remains the top seller.  Macintosh is the #1 SINGLE computer seller. AND their
>market share slipped from 12% to 8% last year.

In US up to 14% last year, not down to...

BTW you're wrong: Apple WAS 1st in the last quarter 1995!
And it was really a surprise for everyone...

>SO, read that to say: ibm compatables 92%, Mac, 8%

Software market Apple: 25% worldwide, others 5%,
IBM's (you guess :) 70%.
(Dataquest)

cu

Andrew

P.S. i don't own a Mac. I have an Amiga :) and a PC.
But i hate one-sided lookings from a computer. I know this
damn feelin'. :(


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Studer Andreas 3132 wrote:
> BTW a conversion-tool like Magic Link on the Amiga is better anyway:
> you can convert Imagine-objects WITH calculated textures and so on to
> Lightwave...
>
> cu
>
> Andrew

  This thing will take a textured Imagine object and provide a Lightwave
object with an associated texture map to simulate the Imagine textures?
I'd buy an Amiga just for that....

Adam

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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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On 09-Jan-96 08:13:32, Steve Koren <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (William Leventry) wrote:

>> RAM: Recommended min. ram >16mb<

>Although I think for casual use you can get away with much less.  I
>have
>16 Mb on my machine (with 40 Mb of swap) and I have rendered some
>seriously huge stuff - pictures at *higher* than print res with a great
>many tens of thousands of polygons.  I don't think that's necessary for
>most beginners, so I suspect they could get away with 8 Mb + 10 Mb swap
>pretty well.  (Booting an 8 Mb system under OS3.1 leaves about 7 Mb
>free for user data, so what, maybe 5 after LW is loaded?  With VMM
>that's enough to do some pretty useful stuff).

  I ran Lightwave 3.1 3/8 megs on an 030 system and found it functional.
There were limits on the sizes of images you could work on, but lo-res
anims and most video res pictures were no problem.

  Chip RAM, however, is important.  1 meg chip is an absolute minimum,
and 2 meg is far better.

  Output, however, will require something able to display lots of
colors, unless you're going to transfer files to another machine for
display.  A stock 500 has limitations here.  DCTV will allow for OK
animations, and doesn't cost too much.  But ultimately you'll want
something better.

<tsb>
*-___________________________________________________________________-*
Jeff Jones  email:[e-mail]   *//* Amiga Lives!
 *TFG*Starfire*Design*Studio*      *\\//*  1985-1994, born again 1995!
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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lee Stranahan's Problem With NewTek
Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:49:38 -0500
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This is Lee Stranahan speaking...

I've received a few messages, both public and private, that seem to
indicate some confusion about my negative comments about NewTek. There
have been vauge mummerings about my 'personal vendetta' against NewTek.

For the record, there is no vendetta. I quit my job at NewTek, and Tim
didn't want me to. Since leaving, Tim has told me he'd hire me again.
Further, I LIKE Tim Jenison, and he likes me. I've been very critical of
the marketing department under Donetta Colbach's direction - I think I've
called it dismal and a disaster and I really do think that - but I like
Donetta personally, too. The only issue I have with NewTek that is
remotely personal is that they have owed Kathy and I several thousand
dollars for about a year.
But I have no 'personal' problems with NewTek, they are all business
criticisms. For the record - I am worried about NewTek's future, and I
worry about how NewTek will affect LightWave. If they seem personal, it
may be because I really do care about NewTek more then almost anyone.

As you may or may not know, I lived and breathed NewTek for the last few
years. It was, literally, my life. I'm still involved in things that
relate to NewTek,.and many of my friends are involved, too. So, I hear
about stuff and I think about stuff, too.

My negative feelings are based a number of things To whit, .
- I know how many copies of LightWave have been sold, how many Toasters
and Flyers were sold, NewTek's current financial status, most of the
people in key positions, what their strengths and weaknesses are.
- I know the circumstances that most of the employees who have left in the
last couple of years left under, and I know  with more perspective than
almost anyone, the full story behind the split between Tim and Paul. I've
been close (at various times) to both of them, both pre and post breakup.
- I talk to people in the industry, and I watch the trends - such as
attendence at things like the VTU expo or the size and content of VTU.

These are all things the average person doesn't know. I don't go into
detail about some things because I really think that that would be counter
productive. So why do I talk about things?  I guess what I hope will
happen is that people will be aware of the situation and get worried and
maybe some pressure will make things change. NewTek has no stockholders -
customer noise has a history of making a difference, however. I do talk to
Tim and I do share my concerns with him in a very clear way, but I'm just
one person.

I wish I could say that Video Toaster User and LightWave Pro were real
customer advocates, but the relationship between VTU and NewTek is very
close - this may have changed, but NewTek was literally funding VTU with
thousands and thousands of dollars to keep the magazine going. So, I don't
count on a lot of objectivity there.....

Sadly, the backlash seems to have started against me, and it's
disheartening. Think what you like about me, but lemme tell ya kids - if
you knew what I knew, you'd worry, too.


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Check out the home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Pricing on non PC platforms
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To clear up confusion...

>---------------------------------------
|> In order to be able to pay for the cost of
|>porting the program to another platfor such as SGI, you have to
|>charge more because you are going to sell much fewer copies.
|>-------------------------------------------------
|>
|>So in other words, the Amiga version should cost more then the PC
version?
|>


I thought I was making this point clearly, but I guess not. My point is
that the number of copies sold is NOT the primary factor in determining
costs. The Amiga version will sell fewer copies, but of course I don't
believe it should cost more for that reason. For the record, I think
pricing PC, Amiga, and Alpha versions at $1000 was a good idea. If I were
going to change the price anywhere, I would drop it - but that would
require a bunch of changes at NewTek that I don't see happening...



_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Check out the home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: "C:APPSWEBWINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <[e-mail]>
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 [e-mail] (Rich Comber) wrote:
>
>Hi!

>As a new owner of LW4.0, my goal is to develop my skills and eventually
>produce a demo tape of my work.  There is alot of professional experience
>here on this group and so ...   I'm looking for a low cost (<$500) solution to
>move my anims to video.  Enough to show off my work.  I'm looking for
>suggestions on hardware/software (intel platform).   I'm currently using a
>5x86-120 w/32MB RAM, 1.2GB HD running Win NT 3.51.

If all you want to do is get stuff onto vhs or get a reasonable preview at full frame
rate, full screen, you should have a look at the MiroDC1, although as yet there are no
NT drivers for it, so I`m having to run it from win95. This is by no means a pro solution for
video output, but the results on vhs are ok for previewing. Here in the UK it costs just over
300ukp and you don`t need a super fast/expensive hard drive to run it from. It packs frames
into an avi as an mjpeg stream and I can even use the codec from within layout to render
straight from Lightwave. It can only take (what was described to me by the saleseman as)
VHS resolotion - ie  376x288(PAL) or the equivalent NTSC, but this means lightning fast
preview rendering. It comes bundled with Premiere4 LE, Photoshop2.5.2 LE and
Asymetrix 3DFX.

Gwynne

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In article: <4d4s61$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Michael Powell) writes:

 under deadline, and have a dongle shut you down...
>

I am, I have, and I`m also in UK and not looking forward to the best part of a month for the
turnaround - but hey, life`s a bitch.

Gwynne.
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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Bay Area/ Los Angeles Animators wanted for 16mm film project
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 11:02:12 +0000
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Hi all, I'm a film student and ran in to what seems an interesting opportunity to
do some animation for a 16mm film. I first was asked to consider animating for the
project a few months ago by a fellow film student. At that time she had no funding for
the film. For some reason she wants to use 3D instead of traditional hand drawn. I ran
in to her yesterday and she asked if I was still interested because she now has found
funding. The film is for Mike and Spikes Festival of Twisted Animation. So we're gonna
be making some gross stuff probably. They haven't finalized the effects yet but are
working on it. They would begin filming in a few months. I thought this would be a
good opportunity to offer a chance to some other LightWavers to break out of video and
move in to the film world, okay it's only 16mm but its film at least ;)...


So if you're in the Silicon Valley/Santa Cruz or Los Angeles regions and feel that you
are qualified to do work on this project. Please email me. I can't promise that you'll
get paid big bucks, ( I have a feeling some money will have to go into buying larger
hard drives rather than in the pockets of the film's crew) but we should get paid some
amount of money, get our names on a film that will be shown around the USA...and that
means exposure for us who are not in the lightwave limelight yet. People who have
experience modeling for character type objects, layout animators who are comfortable
character animating and people who are good with compositing video with CGI are highly
desired...If you feel that you've something special to add to the production..feel
free to email me at [e-mail]

I'm starting my search early because..they early bird gets the worm :)

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The Pentium 150 is already obsolete. Look at the new systems from Micron
Technology and Gateway 2000.  Pentium Pro 200 complete system for about
5,500. Intel is almost certain to discontinue the 150s real soon.

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From: [e-mail] (Leo Scheiner)
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Are you capable and might you be be interested to produce
12-24 illustrations for an on-line childrens book? If you are
prepared to consider a proposition based upon performance
E-Mail me [e-mail] for the details of a proposition
that might suit you.

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From: [e-mail] (EnnBee)
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I have a Personal Animation Recorder I have been using for sometime
and am a recent addition to the LW user base (still using 3DStudio
(since R2)).

Anyway, my problem seems rather simple, but I can't beat it.  While I
like LW capabilities and the look of its renderings, they always come
out VERY washed out/non-contrasty on my PAR.  Has anyone had any
experience with this?  Is there anyway to 'up' the contrast.  Its not
an ambient light problem, because even the demo files rendered out
look great on the computer but faded on the TV screen.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Aaron


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[e-mail] (Ray Dyer) wrote:


> I have Lightwave 4.0 for the IBM-PC...is there a way to put a background in?
>I see it in one of the menus..but when I click on the Background bar it keeps
>saying (None) ..all the time..thanks greatly!

First load in any image.Then go to the effects menu,and hit image
compositing,then background image.
Hope this helps you

Wayne



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From: David Koegler <[e-mail]>
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Second question:

So, if a Power-Mac-based, turnkey Avid system costs from $25,000 to
$30,000, is there something out there of similar quality, without the
disappointments of a Flyer, for a better price?

The Avid interface looks beautiful, is intuitive, looks like lots of fun,
but the price is frightening. However, when I look at the cost of going
to the Flyer, by the time I get done, my costs will be around $20,000, so
paying up to 50% more for all the added features may be worth it.

Comments or advice from anyone?


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If anyone is interested in buses, trains, or trolleys, I am in the
proccess of modeling a collection of vehicles used by the Boston
Elevated, the MTA, and the MBTA throughout the Boston area over the
last hundred years. There is a model of a wire maintainance car that
is free to download if you like.

If you have any models that you might want to add to a collection, let
me know.

Matt Harter

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Monahan)
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I have some folks who whould like to get AutoCad files to LightWave. I'm
new to the application and would appreciate any suggestions.

Thank-you.

Joe Monahan
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
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Hi,
I have been told a company in the USA called Dark Horse Productions
has videos released on Metaforming and Bones.

I'd like to get hold of these tapes in Australia.

Does anyone know where to get them in Australia - or an E-Mail address
for the company.

Thanks

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart TAS OZ

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[e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) wrote:

>+-- [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson) writes:
>| In article <4cccba$[e-mail]>,
>|    [e-mail] (Brett Tribble) wrote:
>| >I would like to get input on everyone's thoughts regarding where new
>| >features should be discussed. Stuart, if there is discussion here, will
>| >you be able to take time from your loaded schedule to comment? Is there
>| >anyone maintaining a list of proposed feature changes, and the potential
>| >for the same to be implemented?
>
>We're always interested in user suggestions -- some of our best
>enhancements came directly from ideas suggested by users.  Allen and I
>keep lists of new ideas, one for Layout and one for Modeler.  If I
>see a good Modeler idea here, I'll probably write it in my notebook.  I
>don't know how much Allen reads this group, so I can't speak for him.
>
>NewTek maintains a bug-tracking database with the capability to include
>suggestions, but it is only accessable to beta-testers.  If a beta-tester
>here wants to act as net-conduit and forward suggestions (and bug reports)
>from the newsgroup to NewTek, that would be fine with me.
>--
>    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
>        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

Stuart I know this is not a Layout issue but modeler screen refresh is
amzingly slow.  I have both Truespace and Imagine and screen refreshes
are so much faster there is no comparison. Mabye you could tell Allen
about this.  By the way what is his email addess if you can.

Scott

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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
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Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Problem With NewTek
Date: 13 Jan 1996 20:58:29 -0500
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Adobe LightWave.  Just an opinion.

Keep up the good work, Lee.
--Brian
Equinox Images, Inc.
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Mollitt)
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[e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver) wrote:

>In <4crcj6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (leelee) wrote:

>>Has anyone out there managed to network an Amiga with a PC so that the
>>amiga drive (or PAR card drive in my case) appears as a drive in the
>>PC enviroment. This would allow me to render direct from LW on the PC
>>to the PAR card on the Amiga

>I'm having the same problem. I managed to get an NFS daemon up on the PC and
>was able to read the drive on the Amiga but alas not vice versa. I didn't find an nfs
>server for the Amiga yet. Sorry.

I tried something awhile back that may may do the trick, on the Amiga,
the file your want is called samba<somthing> (I got it from the Aminet
list - search for "samba" and you'll find it), it basically allows you
to use the Netbui protocol between machines thus allowing a
transparent file system (you can see files and dirs from the PC and
vice versa), it was a little on the flaky side on my setup (did not
always work) but looked very promising, perhaps it's been updated or
may work better with your setup - back then I was running a
pre-release Win95.

/\/\/\/\/\_Sean

Sean Mollitt - President E-design Inc.
http://www.e-design.com



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Studer Andreas 3132 wrote:
> BTW you're wrong: Apple WAS 1st in the last quarter 1995!
> And it was really a surprise for everyone...

Actually both of you are right. You are talking individual companies,
were Apple was first in sales. He was talking all IBM compatibles vs.
Mac were the IBM compatible do FAR more sales than apple could ever
dream.

> Software market Apple: 25% worldwide, others 5%,
> IBM's (you guess :) 70%.
> (Dataquest)

On this you are way wrong. Microsoft holds the largest share of the
software market. IBM probably holds the second largest share but I'm not
sure on that one. Apple has a very small share of the software market.
Even ID probably does a lot more sales in software than Apple

Jeff
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The Advanced Computing Center of Art and Design(ACCAD)
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Up the Contrast? (Gamma?)
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In article <4d7h6k$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (EnnBee) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (EnnBee)
>Subject: Up the Contrast? (Gamma?)
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 05:53:46 GMT

>I have a Personal Animation Recorder I have been using for sometime
>and am a recent addition to the LW user base (still using 3DStudio
>(since R2)).

>Anyway, my problem seems rather simple, but I can't beat it.  While I
>like LW capabilities and the look of its renderings, they always come
>out VERY washed out/non-contrasty on my PAR.  Has anyone had any
>experience with this?  Is there anyway to 'up' the contrast.  Its not
>an ambient light problem, because even the demo files rendered out
>look great on the computer but faded on the TV screen.

>Any help is much appreciated.

>Thanks,
>Aaron

What are you using as a "TV" screen?  Is it a TV or a video monitor?  Our
Amiga PAR didn't come with any SMPTE bars.  Does anybody know if there is a
SMPTE file for the PAR?  If so, you can load and display them to determine if
the problem is in the hardware (PAR and "TV"), or in the rendered images.




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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Help!!!!!!!!
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In article <4d71tj$[e-mail]> Bobby writes:
>From: Bobby
>Subject: Help!!!!!!!!
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01:27:26 GMT

>OK,I finished a 200 frame Anim on my PC at home,all in 24bit iff
>images.Now,how do I transfer them to my Amiga (PAR) 5 miles away
>at work???

>I can't afford a zip or syquest.Can I somehow transfer them from my
>modem at home too work?? If so how  do I compress the file in LHA???

>Thanks!!

The .iffs are somewhat compressed already.  LHA will help some, but not much.
There are some PC LHA programs on my ftp site (see my .sig).  If I assume that
each file ends up taking 500K to transfer (could be substantially more or less
depending on the images) then a 28.8 modem might be able to transfer all the
images in about 6 hours.  If you aren't familiar with telecom programs, this
could be a big pain.  A serial cable transfer (using the same basic telecom
software as above) might sustain 56kbs if you could bring your PC to work.
That would be much faster.  The best solution would to see if you could borrow
someones Zip (parallel port) drive.

BTW - you should double-check my math cuz I didn't.




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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4d7m84$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Hrgtn) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Bill Hrgtn)
>Subject: Rev C patch.
>Date: 13 Jan 1996 02:16:20 -0500

>Anybody else having problems downloading the patch from Newtek, or is it
>just my local provider that I'm having problems with.  I have no problems
>accessing their ftp site, and can even download files, but for some reason
>the system hangs when I try to download the patch.

>Any ideas?

>Bill

I had no problem with the A or B version.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chuck Furlong) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Chuck Furlong)
>Subject: 32 bit output on Intel Lightwave?
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 20:58:50 -0600

>Is there such a thing forLightwave?  I want a 24 bit color output with
>8 bit alpha channel in one file.  Is the only way to achieve this by
> compositing the two files after rendering?  I'm especially interested
> in a non-lossy 32 bit (w alpha channel) animation format.

>Thanks
>Chuck Furlong

>--

I'm pretty sure the HIIP Targa plugins are supposed to support this.  However,
these plugins haven't been working correctly in Rev. A and B.  It may be fixed
in Rev. C.  We have used Elastic Reality in the past to combine files into 32
bit targas.  What's ironic is that this is the same company that makes the
HIIP plugins.



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Does anyone know why newtek avi 32 gives me an error code -2 when I
try to load it under win95.  Works fine under nt.  Also, when I try to
load the plugin in layout it won't write the appropriate line to the
lw.cfg file.  I put it in myself.  The file isn't write protected.  It
must be some sort of dll problem.

Thanks in advance.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
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In article <4d7943$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Sean Huxter) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
>Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:42:08 GMT

>David Koegler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>I would like to take the leap and invest in an Avid editing system with a
>>PwerMac.  I have an Amiga 2000 with a 44MB Syquest removable hard drive.
>>I would like to be able to send Lightwave-rendered animationfiles over to
>>the Avid system.  Has anyone had experience with this?  I would be
>>grateful for any help.

>Our company is also swinging towards this method.

>We've figured out that the best by far way to do this is using the
>PERCEPTION card's component output straight into the AVID's component
>input. (We don't know much about the AVID, but are planning to
>purchase one sometime this year.)

>Other methods include networking the computers and hoping the AVID can
>take a sequence of TARGA or other format files directly and play it as
>if it were digitized video footage.

>I think the component out/in is not a bad way to go. This will be one
>generation closer to original than single-framing to betacam and
>re-digitizing into AVID.

I haven's done this, so I can't say for sure, but I think this is a
questionable plan - depending on your intended output quality.  Either way, it
won't really be a generation closer.

Creating the animation in the PVR introduces loss due to the JPEG compression.
 The AVID then does its own compression which is almost surely lossy as
well.  That's two lossy steps.  Of course dumping to Beta and then going to
the Avid has two lossy steps as well.   Will the AVID import still frames.
Maybe if they are converted to PICTs?  If so, then I think networking (or via
Syquest/Bournelli etc.) would yield better final output.

>But since we're just speculating, as you are, we're not absolutely
>certain that this will be the best way to transfer animation.
..

>Perhaps someone out there has actually done this?

I suppose that is the best way to find out eh?

>Sean Huxter



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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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Subject: Re: AMIGA TO NT
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 04:13:58 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>I am currently concidering upgrading to a more powerful computer to do
>my computer animation on.  I love lightwave and have version on my
>amiga 2000  I'm hesitant to upgrade now because I hear the 4.0 NT
>Lightwave is riddled with bugs. Has anyone made the switch and how
>bumpy was the transition?
>

I've been using for a while now and it works great.

Dave




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From: [e-mail] (Paul D. Godley)
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Is the December or January LW Pro out yet? The latest one I have is the
November issue (Modeler Mysteries on the cover). If Dec/Jan are out yet,
what's on the cover. Maybe I've just misplaced and forgotten it.

Thanks,

-Paul
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> Adobe LightWave.  Just an opinion.

Not Adobe! Lightwave would become an ungodly pig of a program and
would probably get a Mac look to it to boot. What about KAI Lightwave?

Jeff
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The Advanced Computing Center of Art and Design(ACCAD)
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <4d9fnu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (John)
>Subject: LW Networking? ScreamerNet?
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 23:33:26 GMT

>I know very little about Lightwave, but use 3D Studio networked
>regular. How do you render on multiple machines (PC's) using LW?

>I've heard of ScreamerNet..has this got anything to do with it? Any
>info would be appreciated.

>Also, can Amigas AND PC's be used for network rendering using LW4?

>Thanks.

>John

>[e-mail]

ScreamerNet II is the new form of screamernet that comes with LightWave
4.0.  Essentially it is a barebones (not even a gui) program that takes orders
from some control program.  The basic idea is that you establish some common
directory on one of the networked machines where the control program places
one line ASCII text files that issue commands to the various ScreamerNet II
modules that are running.  The SN II modules read these files and then leave
their own acknowledgement files in the same directory.  There is more to the
details of setting it up, but that is the basic idea.

My understanding is that you can use SN II across diverse platforms as long as
you can establish a network between them and as long as you have version 4.0
of LightWave for each platform.


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>Actually I got most of my ideas for explosions looking at B5 and the
>Lightwave showreels, especially the siggraph one with the battletech

SIGgraph LW Showreels?? How does one get hold of one?  Esp. when he
lives in Thailand?? :)

>stuff on it. Watch them frame by frame and if you know anything about
>Lightwave you can figure out how they were done. A lot of reall good
>explosions use particles and particle blue, but also detailed polygons
>flat on to the camera which give you the exploding gas part of the
>explosion.

>These can look very nice. Does anyone know if the explosion is on any of
>the sites? I may upload it if anyone's interested.

Please do!! :)

thanks

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Subject: Amblin Imaging Closed?
Date: 14 Jan 1996 14:02:58 -0500
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I've heard that Amblin Imaging has closed its doors....

John? Anyone?



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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
Date: 14 Jan 1996 12:54:41 -0500
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>So, if a Power-Mac-based, turnkey Avid system costs from $25,000 to
>$30,000,  is there something out there of similar quality, without the
>disappointments of a Flyer, for a better price?

I'm not sure what disappointments you mean exactly, but i just went to
MacWorld and I was very impressed by Data Translation's new Vincent - a
PCI audio/video in and out solution for the new PowerMacs. They have an
under $5000 package- Vincent q/x-  that had GREAT image quality and is
bundled with Adobe Premiere. You can also add component I/O. If you want
image quality, and you want to use a Mac - this seems like a great way to
go.

Funny story - at MacWorld, Kathy and I saw Dwight, NewTek's CEO, standing
at the Data Translations booth, apparently on a fact finding mission. This
is probably about as effective as sending the family pet to Comdex...

Data Translation's Vincent is an important product, because it's another
price drop/quality increase. With the flyer for windows nowhere on the
horizon, NewTek faces a real challenge - by the time they ship, there will
be a lot of competition already available on all platforms at a similiar
price point and they will be mature products. DT's biggest problem is that
they are Mac-only, although that is a big niche as niche markets go...

The company FAR more affected by this sort of thing, though, is Avid -
they are in some serious flux. Avid's stock just took a huge tumble and
they changed CEOs. They aquired a bunch of companies (including Elastic
Reality) and that may have been a bad move. Avid has a lot to lose - they
rule Hollywood right now - and I don't see any White Knight coming in to
save them. (They may hook up with SGI...but SGI is another company in
serious long term jeopardy...and SGI's stock ALSO took a huge tumble...and
Softimage is faster on NT then SGI machines....)



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Hey Jay,

I second your rebuttle....I am sick and tried of people thinking that a
crack is OK, just as long as it is for pro reason, what a crock of SHIT.
You break the law not matter what you are doing if you use a crack.

Later,

John Mark Roquemore
net: [e-mail]

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From: Animax <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lot of questions
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:08:32 +0100
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I am new to this group and I have few questions:
(We use L.W4.0PC rev B)

1/ How works Attach and Detach functions? I dont understand it in
manual

2/ Has anybody an experience with with Flock of Birds (Motion
tracking) connected to LW?
We have one attached to SoftImage.

3/ LW doesnt trace glow effect under a transparent and
refractive.object. Is it bug?

4/ When I set plane before camera and place light with Lens flare near
up to the plane - the plane
is cutting lens flare. Why? (Fade behind object is not activated.)

5./ Why is not glow function envelope under surface menu? Under
surface menu I can only
enable or disable this effect. I can animate it under effect menu.
(e.g. If I want to light up
characters in text)

6./ It could be nice if the trace button could have envelope function
- It could be nice effect.

7./ Sometimes when I do some models from points and I select them
clockwise other counter
clockwise and make from them polygons - there is no normal.
(visibility line)
When I render this object It is invisible. Is the problem between
chair and keyboard or in
LightWave

Ondrej Zajic - Rabbit
Prague

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From: "Gene Z. Ragan" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: SGI Indigo w/Lightwave
Date: 15 Jan 1996 03:10:33 GMT
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Indigo R3000 33MHz IP12
56 MB RAM
300MB Internal/650 MB External
16" Monitor LG1 Graphics
IRIX 5.3
Lightwave 4.0

Good machine for modelling, ScreamerNet

$3200.00



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From: Daryl Stultz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 16:11:41 -0500
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Carp3D <[e-mail]> writes:

>It's a double negative.!   You'll never see  "irregardless"  in any
>dictionary, EVER!

Irregardless is in the dictionary (Webster's New World) as SLANG.

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From: Manuel Coats <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Do you go to a Lightwave User Group?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 14:18:33 -0800
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Lightspeed will be making a few announcements in the coming days and we
have some special promotional information we would like to send to all
Lightwave user groups.  Unfortunately we only have a few dozen names and
address (or fax #'s) at this point.  If you go to such a group or
meeting, could you please send me some e-mail with any information you
can give me on the group (Name, Address, Phone #, Fax, # of attendees,
etc.).  If Newtek has such a list of these groups (I assume they do) then
perhaps somebody from there can e-mail me the list.  I would appreciate it.

Regards,

Manuel Coats
LIGHTSPEED



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From: Bob Lindabury <[e-mail]>
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-- Bob Lindabury
[e-mail]                 The NEW Graphics BBS
http://www.graphics.rent.com           Main line: +1 908/469-0049
ftp://ftp.graphics.rent.com                   Piscataway, NJ USA
3D Studio, Lightwave, TrueSpace, POVRay, PCGNet, Tesselation Times...

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LIGHTWAVE IRC CHANNEL FOR INTERACTIVE LIGHTWAVE INFO!

With the advent of the Internet and low-cost connections via online
services such at Netcom and others providing SLIP/PPP, it is now
possible to work interactively with other LightWave users from around
the globe!  You can interact in REAL TIME with other people who share
your interests.  You can help them and they can help you almost as if
you were right there! How? By using IRC (Internet Relay Chat)!

IRC allows one to join different channels (much like CB simulators on
various BBS's or chat rooms on AOL or Prodigy) and to type in real
time to other users from around the world in the channel.  There's no
limit to the amount of people you can have in a channel.  With
programs for the Amiga such as GrapeVine and AmIRC, mIRC and WSIrc for
the IBM, IRCII for Unix machines and a SLIP or PPP connection to the
Internet, you too can join in on these conversations!

Several of us have created the LightWave IRC chat channel and there's
always somebody there to help people and to just chat about LightWave
and other various topics related to using LightWave. (Sometimes the
conversations stray..but that's the fun of it!)

Besides the talk about lightwave, IRC allows you to share files with
others via something called DCC (Direct Client Connect).  While you're
chatting with someone about why your model doesn't render correctly,
you can send them a render of your scene as well as your model so they
can look at them and tell you what you may have done wrong.

NOTE: Routinely, updates and patches to LW have been released FIRST on IRC
direct from Newtek!

THE IRC MONTHLY PANEL DISCUSSIONS

Myself and a select few individuals are attempting to start what we
hope to be a monthly live interactive conference via IRC (Internet
Relay Chat) pertaining to various aspects of LightWave featuring
prominent figures in the animation/graphics world.

We plan to gather an elite group of professional Lightwave animators
as well as recruit professionals in the industry to serve as panelists.
These panelists will answer your questions pertaining to various aspects
of Lightwave. All questions will be routed through moderators which
will pass them on to the panelists.  The guest panelists will then
answer them in turn.

HOW IT WORKS:

We will have two IRC channels open called; #LWPanel and #Lightwave.
(#lightwave is the normal discussion channel that is available to
everyone all the time)
The panelist will be in #LWPanel while the public will join both.

#LWPanel will be moderated and will allow only the panelist to speak
at random while the public will only be able to speak in turn as the
moderator see's fit.

#Lightwave will not be moderated and will allow the public to chat
amongst themselves while awaiting their turn to address the panel.

We feel that this will be a great learning experience for all and
should be alot of fun. This is just another means of sharing
information about LightWave via the Internet. We hope to have you
aboard.

WHERE WE ARE NOW

We're currently in the process of setting up the first few months topics
and trying to gather panelists and other professionals to participate in
the panel discussions.  We are also gathering information from you so
that we can make this forum as productive and easy to use as possible.

Please answer the appropriate group of questions below (Panelists or
Attendee) and submit the answer to either of the two addresses listed
at the end of this message.  We are planning on starting the discussions
in March, so please reply as soon as possible.

Even if you don't currently have access to the Internet, we would like
to get your feedback.  We are looking at ways to provide everyone that
is interested with accounts that will allow them to IRC, so please
respond.


SOME QUESTIONS FOR PROSPECTIVE PANELISTS

If you are interested in becoming a panelist, please reply with the
following information so that we can determine a date and time that
best suits everyones schedule.

1) Generally, what day of the week would you be available for one to
two hours starting at 10:00 PM EST?

Note: We feel that this time would be the best compromise for the east
and west coast people in the USA. We may change this based on
responses to this questionair.

2) Please give one other day and time.

3) If there are any particluar dates that would be best for you
between now and the end of March, please list.

4) Please list projects and or accomplishments. We will compile a
list of these for each panelist which will be echoed to the public
before the conference begins.

5) If you have ANY questions concerning IRC or this project, list
them here.

6) Do you know of any other professional animators that might be
interested in being a guest panelist?  If so, how can we contact them?


SOME QUESTIONS FOR ATTENDEES

So that we can best serve your needs, please answer the following
questions in as much detail as possible.

1) Do you have access to the Internet now and if not, do you plan on
obtaining access in the near future?

2) Would you be interested in attending such IRC discussions and do
you feel this is a worth-while project?

3) What topics would you like to see covered in panel discussions on IRC?

4) What would be the best time for you to attend such discussions?

5) Do you need help in getting an Internet connection and an IRC
program so that you can attend the monthly discussions?

6) Who would you like to see as guest panelists?

We will be contacting all participants within the next few weeks with
a confirmation of scheduling. Thanks for your time and hope to see ya
soon on IRC!


[e-mail] (Bob Lindabury)        IRC Nickname: TheRaven
[e-mail] (Ronnie Norwood)        IRC Nickname: RonDude


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!
Date: 14 Jan 1996 19:30:43 -0800
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In a message dated Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01: Bobby writes:

B> OK,I finished a 200 frame Anim on my PC at home,all in 24bit iff
B> images.Now,how do I transfer them to my Amiga (PAR) 5 miles away
B> at work???

B> I can't afford a zip or syquest.Can I somehow transfer them from my
B> modem at home too work?? If so how  do I compress the file in LHA???

     You could compress the images into .jpg format (if this is just
for personal use) and transfer them on a number of disks or by modem.
For 200 frames you wouldn't use too many disks...

Christopher

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      Soup      *      http://www.islandnet.com/~dretch      *      WWW
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* Offline Orbit 0.73c *

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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Modelling human objects ??
Date: 14 Jan 1996 19:30:53 -0800
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In a message dated 13 Jan 1996 08:10:20 [e-mail](John writes:

J> I'm trying create from scratch a human head and bust object on
J> Lightwave 3.1 but I'm having trouble.

J> I would appreciate any suggestions on any steps to take and tools to
J> use to create this object.

     Instead of building the head from scratch, I'd make a casting
out of "insulation foam" and slice it as thin as possible. Digitize
the pieces into Lightwave and "skin" the resultant slices into a
basic head. Then you can start on all the details/mapping. That or
get an upgrade to Lightwave versions with metaform.

Christopher

ps. you might want to investigate stand-alone spline based software
    for the Amiga. The learning curve is high but it's an effective
    tool for organic objects.

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* Offline Orbit 0.73c *

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From: Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1996 01:17:11 GMT
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To: Bobby

Bobby wrote:
>OK,I finished a 200 frame Anim on my PC at home,all in 24bit iff
>images.Now,how do I transfer them to my Amiga (PAR) 5 miles away
>at work???
>
>I can't afford a zip or syquest.Can I somehow transfer them from my
>modem at home too work?? If so how  do I compress the file in LHA???
>
>Thanks!!
>

You can use your modem if you can afford having it on a couple
of days straight. Best idea would probably be to transfer the
frames to an external SCSI drive (borrow one?) and then hook up
that drive to the SCSI port on the Amiga and transfer theframes
to the PAR.

Andrew Weiler


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
Date: 15 Jan 1996 06:34:45 GMT
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John Mark Roquemore ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hey Jay,

: I second your rebuttle....I am sick and tried of people thinking that a
: crack is OK, just as long as it is for pro reason, what a crock of SHIT.
: You break the law not matter what you are doing if you use a crack.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

    But the really dumb thing about Jay's position was that
    the crack was needed only as the second option... the first
    being a solution to the actual technical problem.

    But jay let his ego get in the way and chose _not_ to take
    the opportunity to search for a fully legitimate solution, which
    ends up making the crack looking like the better choice.

    I suggest that it would have been much more practical and
    mature to answer in this way:


        Too bad about the dongle problem...

        I'm very much against the use of cracks to get
        around the dongle, even for registered users, so let's
        try to solve your technical problem so that you
        won't be tempted to do so....

        You didn't leave enough information about your system
        (OS, recent changes, etc.) to narrow it down.  If you
        could pass on more info, I'm sure I can pass on a number
        of suggestions....

        etc.


    But he chose not to do that.  He chose to jump on a soap box,
    lecture, gripe about the 'attitude' he percieved and a number
    of other non-issues, and essentially said: 'I could help you,
    but I don't like your attitude, so I won't'.

    That's basically the kind of stuff I used to hear on the play
    ground in grade school.


    So my suggestion is this....  for anyone who *thinks* that they
    are dealing with a pirate or would be pirate, remember that you
    are not perfect, and that you DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE if you are
    dealing with a pirate or not.  They may be legit.

    Answer in ways that would be helpful to a legit user, but less
    so to a pirate.... like make references to page numbers in the
    manual for example.  Or in the case of dongle problems... one
    should have no worries about detailed discussion as pirates
    almost by definition, don't have them.

    But if you can't or don't want to assist.... then don't post.
    Why?  Because it won't change a damned thing if you do.

    The funny thing was that the 'discussion' became so petty so
    quickly by those 'on the attack' that sympathies were being
    generated that would cause that crack to be sent! ("just to
    piss you guys off").

    So in the end, Jay ended up doing everything short of mailing the
    crack himself!  (not solving the technical problem making the
    crack the more attractive option, and then causing others to
    _want_ to mail in the crack!)

    To borrow from an old phrase....

    With enemies like these, who needs friends!?!

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Bay Area/ Los Angeles Animators wanted for 16mm film project
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    Howdy.... I don't have the time to assist, but I can donate
    some lip-sync software I wrote that might be helpful to
    you for the Character animation portions.  (It runs on the
    Amiga only).  Let me know.

    Best of luck.

    Michael Powell

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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
Date: 15 Jan 1996 06:50:03 GMT
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typhoto ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Who shit in your Wheeties?

1). "Wheaties".

2). Look, as near as I can tell, this newsgroup serves no useful
    purpose whatsoever. It exists solely to a). serve as a forum
    for third-party vendors to promote their products in their
    obnoxious .sig's while posting pointless comments about the
    sanctity of NewTek's dongle, and b). allow old Amigoids to
    commiserate with each other while awaiting the Second Coming.

3). "Irregardless" is not a word.

4). At the moment, there is no point 4.

I'm sorry if my original response to you sounded unduly harsh. This thread
prides itself on its friendly, nonjudgemental atmosphere, and hopes to
engender a peaceful and warm feeling in all who participate in it.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Toaster 4.0 ???
Date: 15 Jan 1996 06:42:43 GMT
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Lloyd Eldred ([e-mail]) wrote:
:    Well, LW 4.0/Amiga is apparently out. Can someone update me
: as to the status of the full Toaster 4.0 update? Availability and
: price (from 3.5)? Format (is a floppy based version available, does
: it still include the CD-Rom?)

:    Thanks!


    I called NewTek last week, and they said only that it was
    "due sometime later this quarter".

    Sounds like the NewTek all know and love.

    Regards,

    Michael Powell

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From: Sam Marrocco <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
Date: 15 Jan 1996 03:37:28 GMT
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Regarding getting LW renders over to AVID:

Here's what I do:
Render the frames as TARGA uncompressed individual files. Then, assuming
you have some type of ethernet connection between machines, use Fetch 3.0
(public domain) on the Power Mac to bring the files across to the AVID
machine. I'm not sure if the AVID reads targas or not (think it does). If
not, use Debabelizer on the Mac to convert them to something the AVID
will read.

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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Lageraaen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: I bought Lightwave v4.0 without manuals, *PLEASE* help me!
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 07:53:02 GMT
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Could someone please tell me *exactly* how i can make a nice logo on 3
lines and in 3D, and replace it with that "World Premiere" logo, and
get the same animation just with my logo.

Please explain to me step-by-step, as i said in the subject I bought
Lightwave v4.0 private, and got no manuals.

What animation filetypes can i save it as?


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Garrison)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: P6 Anybody?
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Is anybody out there using LW on a P6? What other programs are you running?

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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: 3D Accelerators
Date: 15 Jan 1996 06:20:04 GMT
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In <4dc5l4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mr gloop)
writes:
>
>All the hoopla about these 3D accelerators has got me a little
confused.
>Is there any benefit to the Lightwave user, or are these things just
for
>games?
>
>Any comments to the group would be appreciated . . .
>

Yes, there are advantages to using 3D accelerators.  If you're using
the new powerview plugin from NewTek, you'll get much faster OpenGL
updates than without one.

GT



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
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In article <[e-mail]> "C:APPSWEBWINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: "C:APPSWEBWINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 03:18:45 GMT

>In article: <[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Walter
>(Jay) Turberville ) writes:

>> I have two dongles (licenses) - I expect to get a third soon.  I have done the
>> testing necessary (and posted the info here BTW) on how to get a scene to
>> render using ScreamerNet II without a control program.

>Erk! looks like I missed this somewhere along the line. If someone could repost
>or mail me the info I`d be
>very gratefull - it could just save my bacon.

>Gwynne.
>--
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| gwynne reddick    EMail [e-mail]     |
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I presume you mean running Screamernet II without a control program.  Here is
the basic procedure.

1. Prepare two different one line ASCII files that each have one of the
following lines.  Use whatever wordprocessor or text editor you are familiar
with that saves plain ASCII text files.
a) load correctpath\myscene.lws
b) render  1 300 1
   (where "1" is the first frame "300" is the last frame and you want the
   frames are incremented by "1".)

2.  Start the screamernet program.  Note: This all assumes that you have set
up Screamernet II as per the manual with the correct command line arguments.

3.  This step can be done quite a few different ways.  How you do it depends a
lot on whether you are more comfortable with DOS or the Windows GUI.
    a) using the GUI, drag both files into the command directory.  Rename the
first file to job1 (assuming that you setup your Screamernet II program to
look for job1).  If you watch, you will see SN II load the scene file.
    b) delete the file job1 and then rename the second file to job1.  You
should see SN II start rendering.

If you are DOS literate, you might use the copy command.  Better yet, you
could do a redirected COPY CON command and skip step 1.

That's it.  This doesn't allow batch rendering of course. There is a document
in the docs\develope folder (imagine that) of the LW CD-ROM that has the six
available SN II commands.  I advise sticking around for a frame to render and
viewing that frame to make sure that all is going well.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Free 3d Models
Date: 15 Jan 1996 02:17:05 -0500
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In article <4d35vb$[e-mail]>, cgid <[e-mail]> writes:

>To purchase the product:
>Send your check or money order
>for $249.95 payable to:
>
>Computer Graphic Images & Design Inc.
>PO Box 230135
>Brooklyn NY, 11223
>
>(Please add $4.0 for shipping and handling)
>
>
>

Before I send my moneyr: What's your phone number, and do you take credit
card orders?

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
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In article <[e-mail]>, typhoto
<[e-mail]> writes:

>Isn't it time to end this thread yet?
>
>

Why?

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
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In article <4dcsi5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Powell) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Michael Powell)
>Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
>Date: 15 Jan 1996 06:34:45 GMT

>John Mark Roquemore ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Hey Jay,

>: I second your rebuttle....I am sick and tried of people thinking that a
>: crack is OK, just as long as it is for pro reason, what a crock of SHIT.
>: You break the law not matter what you are doing if you use a crack.

>        Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

>        But the really dumb thing about Jay's position was that
>        the crack was needed only as the second option... the first
>        being a solution to the actual technical problem.
[snip]

Actually, the dumb thing is that my primary complaint wasn't about the crack
at all and his guy STILL hasn't figured that out yet.  My main complaint
was his extremely rude behavior.  All I said initially about the crack was
that he jumped to that solution rather quickly.

Also, for all his protestations, the subject he chose for his post says
it all.  He didn't put much detail into explaining his problem.  Why?
Could it be because solving his dongle problem probably wasn't on his mind?
 Note that the subject isn't "Help - my dongle seems to be goofed up."  I
think this is a pretty likely explanation for the lack of details on his
dongle problem.  My guess is that he already knew he had a fried dongle when
he made his post.

Also note that this guy hasn't taken the time to give the details on how his
dongle got fried.  He said that installing a printer did it and that tech
support confirmed the problem with some newer dongles and some printers (if I
recall correctly).  I bet some of you with newer dongles wouldn't mind knowing
what kind of printer installation might fry a dongle.  To bad this nice fellow
who was so badly mistreated doesn't think it is important to post this info.

I'm sure we are all tired of this.  I am.  I won't post anymore on this thread
no matter what the next silly justification or complaint towards me this guy
makes.
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW Pro December issue?
Date: 15 Jan 1996 02:17:01 -0700
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In article <4db9kc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul D. Godley) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Paul D. Godley)
>Subject: LW Pro December issue?
>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 16:06:03 GMT

>Is the December or January LW Pro out yet? The latest one I have is the
>November issue (Modeler Mysteries on the cover). If Dec/Jan are out yet,
>what's on the cover. Maybe I've just misplaced and forgotten it.

>Thanks,

>-Paul
>---
>I N F I N I T E   M O M E N T U M
>[e-mail]                  PO Box 51637
>http://www.wp.com/momentum          Durham, NC 27717

We have received December.



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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mojo sure didn't stick around very long ...
Date: 15 Jan 1996 04:01:26 -0500
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In article <4dbodd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Uberscott) writes:

> IR-regard-less;   an apathetic greating card which can only be seen at
>night.
>

Actually, it's a *grating* card. <g>

Regards,
Marc

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: is there software that will convert imagine into LW objects?
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In article <4d7hkq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David
Ingebretsen) writes:

>I have had very good results with either InterchagePlus (Syndesis; John
>Foust) and Pixel Pro (Axiom is gone, but I heard that Anti Gravity
Products
>picked it up).
>
>Interchange exists on both PC and Amiga, Pixel Pro is strictly Amiga.
>
>

I understand that Pixel Pro on the PC is now called PolyForm, and is sold
by Vivid Technologies.

-Marc

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Boys, boys! Keep it up and I'll turn this newsgroup around taking it
STRAIGHT HOME!!!!!!



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2). Look, as near as I can tell, this newsgroup serves no useful
    purpose whatsoever. It exists solely to a). serve as a forum
    for third-party vendors to promote their products in their
    obnoxious .sig's while posting pointless comments about the
    sanctity of NewTek's dongle, and b). allow old Amigoids to
    commiserate with each other while awaiting the Second Comin
--------------------------------------------------------


You forgot c) allow naysayers with too much time on their hands and
personal grudges who have nothing better to do than to pass judgement
to..ummm...pass judgement...


.
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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Crack NEEDED for intel Rev. B
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>You idiots are so fucking funny,You should be getting fired-up over a
>cute red-head! not somebody's problem,I think I will e-mail this guy
>the crack just to piss you knuckleHeads off.Btw I made over
>82,576.00 last year using Lw,does that make me a Pro?
>Well; gotta go back to the Living. ALSO; guy's, really,get a
>life!

Maybe you should spend some of that money I doubt you really earned on
English lessons.

Enjoy taking money out of the programmer's mouths because you, and people
like you, are idiots.
--Brian


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Lindabury)
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LIGHTWAVE IRC CHANNEL FOR INTERACTIVE LIGHTWAVE INFO!

With the advent of the Internet and low-cost connections via online
services such at Netcom and others providing SLIP/PPP, it is now
possible to work interactively with other LightWave users from around
the globe!  You can interact in REAL TIME with other people who share
your interests.  You can help them and they can help you almost as if
you were right there! How? By using IRC (Internet Relay Chat)!

IRC allows one to join different channels (much like CB simulators on
various BBS's or chat rooms on AOL or Prodigy) and to type in real
time to other users from around the world in the channel.  There's no
limit to the amount of people you can have in a channel.  With
programs for the Amiga such as GrapeVine and AmIRC, mIRC and WSIrc for
the IBM, IRCII for Unix machines and a SLIP or PPP connection to the
Internet, you too can join in on these conversations!

Several of us have created the LightWave IRC chat channel and there's
always somebody there to help people and to just chat about LightWave
and other various topics related to using LightWave. (Sometimes the
conversations stray..but that's the fun of it!)

Besides the talk about lightwave, IRC allows you to share files with
others via something called DCC (Direct Client Connect).  While you're
chatting with someone about why your model doesn't render correctly,
you can send them a render of your scene as well as your model so they
can look at them and tell you what you may have done wrong.

NOTE: Routinely, updates and patches to LW have been released FIRST on IRC
direct from Newtek!

THE IRC MONTHLY PANEL DISCUSSIONS

Myself and a select few individuals are attempting to start what we
hope to be a monthly live interactive conference via IRC (Internet
Relay Chat) pertaining to various aspects of LightWave featuring
prominent figures in the animation/graphics world.

We plan to gather an elite group of professional Lightwave animators
as well as recruit professionals in the industry to serve as panelists.
These panelists will answer your questions pertaining to various aspects
of Lightwave. All questions will be routed through moderators which
will pass them on to the panelists.  The guest panelists will then
answer them in turn.

HOW IT WORKS:

We will have two IRC channels open called; #LWPanel and #Lightwave.
(#lightwave is the normal discussion channel that is available to
everyone all the time)
The panelist will be in #LWPanel while the public will join both.

#LWPanel will be moderated and will allow only the panelist to speak
at random while the public will only be able to speak in turn as the
moderator see's fit.

#Lightwave will not be moderated and will allow the public to chat
amongst themselves while awaiting their turn to address the panel.

We feel that this will be a great learning experience for all and
should be alot of fun. This is just another means of sharing
information about LightWave via the Internet. We hope to have you
aboard.

WHERE WE ARE NOW

We're currently in the process of setting up the first few months topics
and trying to gather panelists and other professionals to participate in
the panel discussions.  We are also gathering information from you so
that we can make this forum as productive and easy to use as possible.

Please answer the appropriate group of questions below (Panelists or
Attendee) and submit the answer to either of the two addresses listed
at the end of this message.  We are planning on starting the discussions
in March, so please reply as soon as possible.

Even if you don't currently have access to the Internet, we would like
to get your feedback.  We are looking at ways to provide everyone that
is interested with accounts that will allow them to IRC, so please
respond.


SOME QUESTIONS FOR PROSPECTIVE PANELISTS

If you are interested in becoming a panelist, please reply with the
following information so that we can determine a date and time that
best suits everyones schedule.

1) Generally, what day of the week would you be available for one to
two hours starting at 10:00 PM EST?

Note: We feel that this time would be the best compromise for the east
and west coast people in the USA. We may change this based on
responses to this questionair.

2) Please give one other day and time.

3) If there are any particluar dates that would be best for you
between now and the end of March, please list.

4) Please list projects and or accomplishments. We will compile a
list of these for each panelist which will be echoed to the public
before the conference begins.

5) If you have ANY questions concerning IRC or this project, list
them here.

6) Do you know of any other professional animators that might be
interested in being a guest panelist?  If so, how can we contact them?


SOME QUESTIONS FOR ATTENDEES

So that we can best serve your needs, please answer the following
questions in as much detail as possible.

1) Do you have access to the Internet now and if not, do you plan on
obtaining access in the near future?

2) Would you be interested in attending such IRC discussions and do
you feel this is a worth-while project?

3) What topics would you like to see covered in panel discussions on IRC?

4) What would be the best time for you to attend such discussions?

5) Do you need help in getting an Internet connection and an IRC
program so that you can attend the monthly discussions?

6) Who would you like to see as guest panelists?

We will be contacting all participants within the next few weeks with
a confirmation of scheduling. Thanks for your time and hope to see ya
soon on IRC!


[e-mail] (Bob Lindabury)          IRC Nickname: TheRaven
[e-mail] (Ronnie Norwood)          IRC Nickname: RonDude


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From: William R Wooden Jr <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Pennello Lite doesn't WORK.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 03:33:07 -0500
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I am running LW 4.0 (rev.C) on NT 3.51 (Intel), and when I
attempt to select the Pennello plug in under effects, in Layout,
I get a "-2 error", and Pennello won't execute. If anyone has
any idea why this is, PLEASE tell me.
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| [e-mail] |
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Subject: 3D Accelerators
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All the hoopla about these 3D accelerators has got me a little confused.
Is there any benefit to the Lightwave user, or are these things just for
games?

Any comments to the group would be appreciated . . .

Thanks!
Michael Berglund
Minnefex, Inc--------Specialty Props and Special Effects
"We're the Kids Your Mom Wouldn't Let You Play With."

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Re: MPEG HIIP?
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> There are very few inexpensive MPEG solutions for the PC.  I have used
> a freeware program called CMEPG successfully.  It runs in DOS only and
> can only create MPEGs of up to approximately 400x300 resulution.  I
> made a couple of batch files that make it easier to use and it is
> actually pretty quick at compiling the MPEG.  There are some 320x240
> MPEGs on our Studio WWW page.  If they seem of satisfactory quality,
> let me know and I will arrange to mail, link, or ftp the program to you.

I agree with this. It is a freeware or shareware program, but it doesn't
do sound, sadly. You can load and save MPEG files from Corel Photo-Paint
version 6, but then you have to buy the entire darn Corel 6 suite
(including versions of Add-Depth and Ray Dream which you might not want)
as well. Again you can't do sound.

THe hardware solutions seem to be the only way to go to get MPEG and
sound. An HIIP MPEG plugin would be nice though. As would an MPEG saver
for Adobe Premiere. Right, Adobe?

---
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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>> Adobe LightWave.  Just an opinion.
>
>Not Adobe! Lightwave would become an ungodly pig of a program and
>would probably get a Mac look to it to boot. What about KAI Lightwave?

My favorite pet scenario is that Allen & Stuart are courted by
some big movie-and-TV special effects or movie-making department.
Hmm, George Lucas is making three new Star Wars movies?  Think
he'll use blue-screens and plastic models, or will he add some CG?
Think he'll use off-the-shelf software, or will he want to craft
his own?

And Lee, what's this, you're starting to talk about yourself
in the third person?  Who are you, Bob Dole or Deon Sanders?

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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If Lee lives and breaths LightWave/NewTek..how come I do not see LightWave
mentioned in his WWW page at teh bottom where he mentions the software
that he uses on a regular basis??

Adam Chrystie

--
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Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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On 13-Jan-96 17:03:28, RJ ([e-mail]) posted:


> You idiots are so fucking funny,You should be getting fired-up over a
> cute red-head! not somebody's problem,I think I will e-mail this guy
> the crack just to piss you knuckleHeads off.Btw I made over
> 82,576.00 last year using Lw,does that make me a Pro?
> Well; gotta go back to the Living. ALSO; guy's, really,get a
> life!

Who the heck would want Rev B anyway? Rev C is out, and it renders 250%
faster than the previous releases. Surely THAT must be of some value to a
professional with deadlines to meet. ;-)

--
      ______________________________________________________________
     /     John Crookshank         | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \
    |  MicroTech Solutions, Inc.   | Lightwave 3D, Toaster/Flyer     |
    | Desktop Video Systems Dealer | JVC Professional Video Products |
    | NewTek Systems Group Dealer  | PVR, Speed Razor, Amiga Dealer  |
    |------------------------------|---------------------------------|
    |     [e-mail]              http://www.mt-inc.com/       |
     \______________________________________________________________/



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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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On Sat 13-Jan-1996  3:55a, Adam Hendershot wrote:
AH> Eric J Fleischer, MD wrote:
AH> >
AH> > Mathew Davis <mathew> wrote:
AH> >
AH> > >i've spent today
AH> > >plugging away ot my first day using
AH> > >lightwave
AH> > >
AH> > >i have a thirty day trial version that
AH> > >doesn't come with
AH> > >any manuals
AH> >
AH> >    The common parlance for such a version is a pirated version,
AH> > Mathew. In other words, you are using stolen software. There is no
AH> > "thirty day trial version".  You are not likely to get help from us
AH> > paying users.
AH> >
AH> > <ELF> - Dr Gandalf - Eric J Fleischer, MD
AH> > [e-mail]
AH> > [e-mail]

AH>   Didn't I read somewhere that there's a 30 day trial version for the
AH> SGI?

AH> Adam (the other one)


So now everybody is going to say that they have the SGI version so that people
wont get on there case?

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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In a message dated Sun, 14 Jan 1996 21: [e-mail] writes:

E> Some people have mentioned the idea of Telnetting to
E> somewhere---I've heard of this, but not exactly sure how you do
E> this...what is involved, & where do you get the program (if in fact
E> it is a program--I'm using NetScape...is it possible through it???)since
E> it would be IDEAL for me to telnet to the NewTek bbs instead of paying
E> the long distance call from Dallas!

     If using a PC, use archie... Oh, wait a second, you might not know what
archie is.... forget it...

     Using Netscape, open "ftp://ftp.uwo.ca" and wait until you get the file
directory. Go into pub/micro/win/telnet and grab the file telnet.exe
Double click on this file in filemanager to decompress it and configure it
as Netscape's telnet application. Works for me......

     You could, of course, just type "ftp://ftp.newtek.com" into
Netscape and avoid all the hassle but it's good to have a telnet application
configured anyway, for white page servers and other funky stuff...



Christopher

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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Gross) writes:

>
>Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: I've heard that Amblin Imaging has closed its doors....
>
>: John? Anyone?
>
>Nope. We are going thru some transitions since the cancellation of
>seaQuest (and it is too early to talk in more depth publicly) plus
some
>of the seaQuest animators are moving on to other things, but we are
still
>very much alive. I will post more info when appropriate.
>
>JGross
>Amblin Imaging


For the record, Greg Teegarden, Eric Barba, Fred Tepper, Glen Miller,
and Mark Glaser have asked me, Grant Boucher, to form a new CGI effects
and animation house (name to be announced).  A few of the Amblin
Imaging animators left a month ago to form another company, which I
will let them discuss when they are ready.  Amblin Imaging is now John
Parenteau and John Gross along with the remaining support and technical
staff. We wish them the best of luck in their new endeavors.

We are still exploring our many options and would like to thank all of
LightWave community for your support over the years.  You can get in
touch with our new venture over the internet by e-mailing me at
[e-mail]. Again, we aren't going to be in a position to
make any announcements for at least a week or two, so be patient if we
can't answer all of your questions yet.

Rest assured, we all still believe that LightWave is the best 3D tool
out there, period, and we aren't going away...not by a long shot.

Grant S. Boucher
Former Co-Director of Special Projects, Head of Research and
Development, and Co-supervisor Star Trek: Voyager for Amblin Imaging



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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: 3D Accelerators
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+-- [e-mail](William Teegarden) writes:
| In <4dc5l4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mr gloop) writes:
| >All the hoopla about these 3D accelerators has got me a little confused.
| >Is there any benefit to the Lightwave user, or are these things just for
| >games?
|
| Yes, there are advantages to using 3D accelerators.  If you're using
| the new powerview plugin from NewTek, you'll get much faster OpenGL
| updates than without one.

While this is true, you should be very careful before buying a cheap
3D accelerator.  They are indeed mostly designed for games, so make sure
it will enhance double-buffered OpenGL in a display size and color-depth
that will be useful for LightWave work.  Some only support 3DR on 640x480
displays running at 256 colors.  The Omnicomp "3Demon" is a real nice
choice, and even with this fairly high-end card you still have to be
aware of what is possible at different resolutions.  They recomend 1024x
768 at 4096 colors as a good compromise between quality and performance.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
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: :    Well, LW 4.0/Amiga is apparently out. Can someone update me
: : as to the status of the full Toaster 4.0 update? Availability and
: : price (from 3.5)? Format (is a floppy based version available, does
: : it still include the CD-Rom?)
-snip-
:     I called NewTek last week, and they said only that it was
:     "due sometime later this quarter".
-snip-

I called the only dealer near me (Detroit area) and only one person in
the store (Amiga/Multimedia-type) knew LW4.0 Amiga was out. price $895 ..H.S!

The Toaster 4.1 upgrade was "due out next week" today, date of this post
is Jan 15th. and that price was $550-$600.

These aren't upgrades they are outright purchases of a new program.  I
understand that the new versions on CD-Rom are "going" to have monster
amounts of images and I've heard that NewTek didn't get the liscense for
the viewpoint objects, but then I also heard that lots o' objects will be
on the Rom.



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From: [e-mail] (Thies Uhl)
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Subject: avi/bad resolution
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if i play the animation after saving the color resolution is very bad.
Why?

(Win95)



-Thies-

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From: [e-mail] (Robin Germany)
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"City of Lost Children" is not only the best film I have seen since Brazil
(if not better), but it is one of the most mature uses of animation and
digital effects.  Unlike most Hollywood crap where you get lots of really
cool special effects in some really lame film (for example StarGate), City
of Lost Children is a fantastic film - visionary story, great
cinematography, etc. - gracefully using 3DAnimation and effects only where
needed.

I highly reccomend seeing it.  It is a french film by the directors of
Delicatessan.

Go See It!

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[e-mail] (CNelson) wrote:
>As a recent immigrant to the PC platform, I have found the
>realtime animation playback capabilities extremely limited
>with the native hardware. AVI just doesnt cut it as far
>as quality is concerned.
>
>I have a fairly good quality mpeg card, and no way
>to encode lightwave output into animations! Does anyone
>know of a decent frame encoder for LightWave.
>
>Ideally, an HIIP animation saver would solve the problem, but
>(to my knowledge) no such beast exists! Does anyone know of
>a *cost effective* (read:CHEAP!) solution for my Lightwave
>to MPEG sadness???
>
>Chris Nelson

If you still have your Amiga around, ImageFX has MPEG-creating
abilities- plus being a super image-processing/batch processing/paint
abilities (i.e. it gives PhotoShop a run for its money in V2.1+)

>



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Justin Northcutt (justin) wrote:
: I spoke with someone at MH and they said they are in the process of "tearing"
: the online help out of the program and converting it into some type of
: text/manual.  They said they were thinking of possibly posting it onto their
: ftp site.  You may want to call them for sure, sorry, don't have the number
: handy.


Sigh.  I'm genuinely happy that they want to do something about it, but
when I was complaining about the doc issue on the A:M/MHA mailing list,
I tried to be very clear that the media was less of an issue than the
quality and comprehensiveness of the written material.  This was the
opinion of many people on the list.  If they just take the same old
stuff and put it on paper, that still won't solve the problem, IMO.


--
David.
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David L. Campbell     The Ego Wall:
[e-mail]          http://www.realtime.net/~dcampbel
========= Will make computer animations for food! =========

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From: [e-mail] (CamCollect)
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Subject: FS: LW 4.0 Alpha
Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:27:18 -0500
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FOR SALE:
One left in stock NOW.... LW 4.0 for DEC Alpha.....BRAND NEW
regular $1995  special $1895





   Greg Milneck, Jr.

      The Video Company

           Baton Rouge, LA, USA


                    [e-mail]

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From: mmolyneux <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
Date: 16 Jan 1996 00:09:07 GMT
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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:
>In article <4d7943$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Sean Huxter) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
>>Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:42:08 GMT
>
>>David Koegler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>

>  Will the AVID import still frames.
>Maybe if they are converted to PICTs?  If so, then I think networking (or via
>Syquest/Bournelli etc.) would yield better final output.
>

The SGI AVID system will import Alias and Targa files. I have just spoken to a
AVID dealer and they told me that the MAC version will also now import Alias as
well as PICT, PICS, TIFF and QT. Best option might be to render as Alias then
transfer with Syquest/Bournelli or networking.

--
Morton Molyneux

Ke Communications


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Does anyone know how to convert a 2d picture intoa lightwave 3d
object, on the P.C.?
I used to do that on the Amiga with Pixal 3d Pro.
Thanks in advance, Shawn



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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
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Subject: Constant Particle Stream
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Anyone know how to generate a constant flow of particles from a single
point or small area.  This is for sparks in cutting a logo out of metal.

Is this process made much easier with Sparks or Particle Storm?

Thanks

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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Problem With NewTek
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>My favorite pet scenario is that Allen & Stuart are courted by
>some big movie-and-TV special effects or movie-making department.
>Hmm, George Lucas is making three new Star Wars movies?  Think
>he'll use blue-screens and plastic models, or will he add some CG?
>Think he'll use off-the-shelf software, or will he want to craft
>his own?

Oooh, that would be even better.  As long as we're fantasizing, why not
big?
--Brian


Equinox Images, Inc.
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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Hey: Does Anybody have any Idea how the Scene2VRML Modeler Macro
works? I have successfully saved a VRML object But Now I want to
link Several together in a scene.

You Can see my first lame attempt at VRML on my page at:

http://www.pacificnet.net/~bjhayes

Thanks in advance

Brad HAyes

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>
> This is true about the SGI version, but companies who give trial
> versions of their software also give manuals as well.  It's part of the
> trial.
>
> GT

One would think!
But alas we did not get manuals with our eval copy either
     -------------------------------------------------------------
    Ace Miles * Senior Animator * Time Warner Interactive

       [e-mail] (work)  or   [e-mail] (home)
           408-473-9492                     408-446-4808

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    To all concerned:

    I'm writing this message to hopefully close this sad affair and
    restore harmony, such as it is and such as it might last, to
    this group.

    I have proposed a truce with Jay, and as part of that truce
    I have offered to take back the venting (read: fire and brimstone
    flames) that I directed at NewTek in my original post.

    The flames I directed at NewTek were unreasonably harsh and
    uncalled for.    For this I apologize to NewTek, especially
    those responsible for the legitimate practice of dongling
    Lightwave, and also to any readership here that might have
    taken offense to said flaming.

    My grumpiness over a dongle failure should have not spread to
    the net.

    I promise to never let it happen again (unless they loose my
    dongle while they are fixing it, and I never get it back :-)

    Jay and I have both agreed that under other circumstances, we
    would very likely get along much better (and in fact have).

    Regards to all,

    Michael Powell

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[e-mail] (Eric J Fleischer, MD) wrote:

>>>   The common parlance for such a version is a pirated version,
>>>Mathew. In other words, you are using stolen software. There is no
>>>"thirty day trial version".  You are not likely to get help from us
>>>paying users.
>>>

>
>Quoting William Teegarden:
>"This is true about the SGI version, but companies who give trial
>versions of their software also give manuals as well.  It's part of
>the trial."
>

We have tried several pieces of trial software over the last 8 months and not
all came with manuals. Several have included basic instuctions and some
tutorials along with support services. If fact most of all the software we have
purchased for our SGI system (except for Lightwave and AVID) did not come with
paper manuals but use SGI's "Iris InSight Online Documentation and Help.

>The idea that a company would give a 30 day trial version of a complex
>piece of software without any sort of manual is absurd. If it is
>indeed true, then its SGI that owes him an apology, not me.
>
It has nothing to do with SGI as the manuals are from NewTek via Xaos Tools. We
recieved our Beta version of Lightwave (SGI) last Aug. and the final release in
Nov. the manuals however only arrived last week so it is more than likely that
a trial version would have been sent with out them.


Cheers

Morton Molyneux

K2 Communications


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:

>Creating the animation in the PVR introduces loss due to the JPEG compression.
> The AVID then does its own compression which is almost surely lossy as
>well.  That's two lossy steps.  Of course dumping to Beta and then going to
>the Avid has two lossy steps as well.   Will the AVID import still frames.
>Maybe if they are converted to PICTs?  If so, then I think networking (or via
>Syquest/Bournelli etc.) would yield better final output.

FYI, The Avid systems use M-JPEG, as do most non-linear systems.

Actually, the idea about using the PVR and then playing into the Avid
works pretty well. 99% of folks can't tell.

>>But since we're just speculating, as you are, we're not absolutely
>>certain that this will be the best way to transfer animation.
>..

>>Perhaps someone out there has actually done this?

Been there, done that.

>I suppose that is the best way to find out eh?

Dave Paige



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Okay, I'm sorry for those of you who requested the miniFAQ on the
newsgroup, but I haven't been on line for awhile (newsserver down) and to
please everyone, I'm going to post it here. So, beware, this is a LONG
post. If you do not want to read it, than this warning is for you :).

However, if you do wish to read it, it's here in it's entirety and is
updated with all the information that I gathered from Hash at the January
MacExpo in SF (note this effects ALL users on all platforms).

If you have read the miniFAQ before, all the new material is in the
beginning, so you do not have to read through all of the document. I hope
that this helps many of you who are just starting out with your decision
on a software package for 3D. I believe that Animation Master and Martin
Hash's Animation (MHA) are excellent tools to begin learning 3D,
particularly character animation concepts and spline modeling (the future
:) ). Just remember that it is not easy no matter how you slice it, but
if you stick with it, you can do great things! Just know that your pencil
and paper artistic skills are VERY important and transfer to your ability
in 3D. Develop your 2D sketching skills and texture skills and you will
go a long way in learning things in three dimensions as well.

Please don't get discouraged.

Alright, that said. Here's the document and good luck to you all! :)


oh, and for those of you who have not seen any of my previous posts, I do
not work for Hash :), despite my evangelistic furvor *chuckle*. Again,
good luck!


Response to my offer for the miniFAQ is/was huge. I'm still trying
to answer them all. Here's the information for this batch of you that are
interested. If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask
me or if you can write to Hash at the address listed in the miniFAQ. I
can get to everyone's questions myself but since I'm usually quite busy
doing contracts I can't guarantee that I'll answer it in a timely
fashion. I apologize in advance.

Just remember, you should find out as much as you can about the software
you are buying, and since AM unfortunately does not currently have a demo
(I remind them of that often), you do what you can, and the purpose of
the miniFAQ is to inform folks as much as I can about the software within
my means. Thanks again for your interest! Oh, by the way, I am NOT in any
way financially affiliated with Hash, the makers of Animation Master, I'm
just a zealous user with a big mouth :).

Here it comes :)

Good luck!

-Steve C.

This is an updated miniFAQ for Animation Master and it's siblings.

MOST RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS: January 15, 1996 MacExpo SF

The newest information on Animation Master is the development of version
4 which is currently in beta and will not be shipping for at least a
couple of months (last heard). Version 4 will fulfill one of the main
drawbacks of AM's software feature set. And that is through the
introduction of effects.

Particle effects will be part of the Materials Editor. Materials have in
addition been integrated into the main program. Materials can be used to
create the traditional procedural textures and these may be either used
directly to patches or may be rendered out into texture maps of any size
for the user to use as decals.

Particles will be able to take animated materials which change over time,
and will have transparent edges allowing for gaseous looking particles
and such. Standard birth, death, size, etc. controls for the particles
will also be featured. It's pretty awesome from what I saw.

In addition, Dynamics will be available as well. Including Gravity and
Collision. No Wind as of yet, but I believe that they are working on
that. And, I am not certain about this but I believe that materials will
be able to assign weight to objects as a characteristic.

Advances with current features include, better antialiasing and better
quick shading. Let me emphasize that last point. Quick shading, if you
are using a Diamond Edge or similar board which contains the nVidia
chipset will be phenomenal. Here's why:

The nVidia chipset happens to accelerate the rendering of biquadratic
patches VERY well. It was a fairly simple matter of converting Hash's
patches to take advantage of this feature. Because of this, AM can now
export .qtm which is the geometry format for nVidia chips. And beyond
this it gives a Pentium90 (and the PowerMac) with a nVidia chip based
board
the ability to render models and skeletal animation scenes at realtime.

The Diamond Edge Graphics board [PCI], soon to be out for the Mac,
contact Diamond)
is the only board that currently sports the nVidia chipset but more are
on the way. This $300 to $600 board will turn your $3000 PC or Mac into a
realtime rendering SGI killer.

Now, I'm not saying that this will do everything that the SGI will do.
What I am saying is that when I saw the PC running at the MacExpo with
beta v4, showing what was coming, my chin scrubbed the floor. Everyone
that saw it at the show was totally flabbergasted. Including most of the
competition there :).

Here's what was being shown. A realistic female face, with quick shading
locked-on. I was rotating the geometry and the face was keeping up with
my mouse gyrations. I showed about fifty people, pretty much everyone
that I could get. I could pluck and pull the geometry underneath. Poke,
pull, play, move, push, tuck, etc. Everything. It was totally amazing.

Much of what peopel purchase SGIs for is their excellent software, and
the proprietary/fast hardware acceleration that provides realtime shading
of geometry. This increases productivity of the artist by freeing he or
she from waiting for the quick shades to see if the mesh is actually
shaped properly. Because of realtime shading, SGI users are able to make
models much more quickly because they do not have to wait and lose their
train of thought or stutter their creative processes.

What Hash has done is to have brought this functionality to the PC (and
again, to the Mac, once Diamond has written firmware for the Edge card).
An equivalent effect of realtime shading is not quite achieved by a 16Mb
OpenGL accelerator card. Something FAR more expensive than the $300-$600
you would spend for the nVidia. It really is awesome.

My own productivity will increase when using AM by at least 5 to 8 times
by my judge, since most of the time, I'm waiting for a quick shade to go
through or I forget exactly what points I needed to modify. With
quickshade realtime, I can modify them all because they are right there
in front of me :).

Animation Master is definitely making alot of IMPORTANT heads turn now,
and it looks like things can only get better.

On the business end of things, Hash is doing very well now as evidenced
by the fact that they essentially sold out at the MacExpo... on the
second day. Additional stock was overnighted to fulfill the demand and
they sold out yet again, at the end of the show. Support and usership of
AM has skyrocketed and it can only mean better things for the users of AM
and MHA.

For those of you with version 3 MHA, there will probably be an upgrade
path to v4 though I'm not sure. And for version 3 of AM, users will
automatically get a free upgrade to v4 (That's what I've been told,
please verify, do not take my word for it! =) ).

Let's see what else.... Oh, comments. I guess the last thing is that Hash
is now targeting the game developer's realm, particularly those doing
realtime 3D projects. The new version will support many game developer
wants (many of my own :) ), and Hash wishes to establish it's software as
not only a Animators tool for video and film, but also as a development
tool for game developers for sprites AND realtime geometry.

They will be at the Computer Game Developer's Conference in April in
Santa Clara.

With Effects, all that AM needs is to continually advance their feature
set to the next generation with each new version, as well as implement
more sophiticated forms of their current ones, perhaps with wind and warp
in their dynamics package, and hair in their particles (heck why not? :)
). The only other thing that one might demand is that they create some
sort of 3D texture painting software, integrated into the program. These
sound like ridiculous requests, and they may be, but from what they've
been able to create and implement over just the last two years.. I'm
ready to believe anything. And the final thing would be to add some sort
of end-user custom extensibility, in the form of plug-ins and such. I
myself have now converted to Hash's way of thinking about this. Which is:
plug-ins are generally a marketing thing. The reason being that a
package, if it is going to have the feature at all, should have it
integrated into the package completely.

Having worked with a variety of IPASes from 3ds it is an utter nightmare
sometimes to work in what is essentially a totally separate program and
then transfer to 3ds. It's great to have the features by third parties,
but Hash feels that it is their responsibility to include all features
that their users need, directly in the software main.

Beyond this, because AM and MHA is very cross-platform (Win NT (alpha,
MIPS, Intel), '95, 3.1, PowerMac), such plug-ins would also be cumbersome
for third party developer's to design. Worse, they would be unavailable
for many unsupported platforms. As such, it is Hash's belief and
philosophy to do the best it can to make the best features part of it's
software and not rely on the backs and minds of third party developers.

Enough pontificating? :) Sorry.

Any mistakes in this document above or below are mine alone, and not that
of Hash, Inc. I do not however take responsibility for any mistakes in
this document outside of the fact that they are, to the best of my
knowledge true. So please, if you're making any big decisions, check with
another source as well! And as always, if you have any questions, please
direct them to Hash, at the address at the end of the miniFAQ or if you
wish, you can email me. It may take longer to answer but I'll try to get
to you as soon as possible.

Good luck!
EVEN MORE RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS: November 14 1995
===============================

As many of you who are now receiving this miniFAQ, you know that
Animation Master is now available for the PowerMacintosh (and soon, if
not already, the Macintosh 68k).

Also, Ken Baer, the Mac Guru at Hash had intended to include Quickdraw3D
implemented and running at this stage as well. However, due to some
incompleteness in the Quickdraw3D library specs, there are still some
things that remain to be done before Ken will be fully implementing QD3D
support and 3DMF file support. This will be arriving in the
not-too-distant-future upgrade. However, because we all know software
development and it's pitfalls/trevails keep you fingers crossed.

Be assured however that that is pretty much the number one priority on
the Mac side of things and that I'm sure will be persued with due
diligence. From preliminary testing, the QD3D acceleration will be
outstanding and will work perfectly with Animation Master.

On another note, I had meant to include this information in the miniFAQ
from it's inception but kept forgetting, so here it is now, the address
to the animation master discussion group:

[e-mail]

That's it for now :). Good luck all of you, and have fun with the best
piece of software this side of an SGI (The SGI version notwithstanding of
course :) ).

RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS:
=====================
Animation Master has been greatly enhanced since its Playmation
days. Up until recently, AM has been v2. But Martin Hash's Animation,
was just announced for Windows. MHA is the complete 3D toolkit package
of Animation Master version 3. It differs from the full Animation
Master v3 package because it does not include the post-composition
module, the network rendering module, materials editor module, and the
lip-synch module.  Note that these are all new modules except the
materials editor and are entirely separate packages from the 3D
package. Again, except for the materials editor, none of the modules
were ever available in any form in version 2.

However, in every other aspect, 3D features, animation features and
functionality, etc. MHA is the complete 3D toolkit that Animation
Master v3 is. It will even include motion-capture, which is something
that I think is a rather high-end feature... but hey, what do I
know. :)

The only difference is that MHA is selling for ~$199, whereas,
Animation Master v3 is selling for ~$700, at least from last that I've
heard :).

The object and motion library CD, I believe is included with AM v3 as
well as in MHA, so everyone should be happy. Of course, upgrade
coupons will be made available. And I've been told that a $100 coupon
will be included with each MHA package for upgrading to Animation
Master.

v3 is the last version of AM that will be supported for NonPPC Macs.
>From now on only PPC Macs will have new versions of AM. Rendering and
screen redraws on 68k Macs are just too slow. (This may have also
changed, Ken Baer has said that he is thinking of compiling a 68k version
as well now, so call to verify if you are interested.)

Although, v2 and v3 of Animation Master is not supported for Amigas,
this may change should the future of Amigas become brighter but is
tentatively what I've been told. Therefore again, v3 will not be
available for Amigas. Also, WinNT support is currently only available
for MIPS and Alpha platforms, Intel NT should be forthcoming.  Call
for further updates and details. (I believe this situation has changed
now *25 October 95.)

All Mac versions of v3 will support Quickdraw3D and Apple's 3Dmetafile
format in NURBs. Because of interest from realtime 3D game developers
for a format which includes accurate texture mapping information
included in the data file, Ken Baer will do his best to include this
in a later update of v3, but because of the complexity and time
involved there can be no promises as to time.

An update on the AM v3 for the Mac:
I have been working with this beta for awhile now, and aside from not
having on-line help data files included (because of download times) it is
incredibly solid and complete. From a Mac user standpoint, it is slick
and unique in terms of interface. It is in keeping with Hash's philosophy
of maintaining a unified interface across platforms, BUT it is also nice
from a Mac interface perspective. The backgrounds of the dialog boxes are
not titanium white, but grey and they have a nice professional appeal to
them.

Beyond that the program works very well, it should be in pre-release soon
if not already and I'm confident that Mac users will find it unbelievably
powerful. Nothing on the Mac side even comes close in terms of animation
control and organic modeling ability, and when you bring in the
price-performance, forget it. Again, with quickdraw3D hardware
acceleration, *chuckle* MacWeek just reviewed some examples and qd3D
whatever the package is going to make 3D on the Mac and whatever software
supports it, much MUCH easier.

Tuning light positions, which is something that many artists spend hours
trying to get right, can be done far more quickly now. Moving a light
with hardware acceleration on is just like carrying a light source
through a scene in real time, you can see the highlight move on the
surfaces of your objects.

Anyway, more on the quickdraw3D stuff later when I actually get to use
it with hardware acceleration, but it looks very promising from all reviews.

FEATURES AND TOOLS:
===================
Because the additional modules for post-comp, netrender, and lip-synch
are still not finished, I will just mention them at the end of the
miniFAQ. I will devote the main body of this section to the tools that
are present in v2 and v3 of Animation Master, as well as highlight the
new features present in v3. (The PC version of AM now has the additional
modules in pre-release or perhaps release now, it is shipping with 3.15,
but I have not had a chance to use them yet, and know them only by what
they are supposed to do, as in all cases of this type, call Hash for more
information.)

The philosophy of Animation Master and essentially all of Hash
Enterprise's products has been to create accessible, sophisticated,
intelligent, and powerful software for the computer character
animation.  Traditionally the focus has been toward the development of
television and film type tools, but recently, incredible interest by
the game development community has expanded the applicability of
Animation Master to this field as well.

To this broad base of professional users as well as recreational-users
and 3D hobbyists, Hash has developed a line of products that suit all
their needs.

Animation Master is an integrated 3D graphics package. It is a
modeler, animator, and renderer. This I have come to call the 3D
toolkit of AM.  Here are some of the features for the 3D toolkit of
AM.


Modeling:
---------
Modeling is done in the sculpture module which was separate in v2 but
is integrated with all other modules in v3. Modeling is spline based
and is base on the creation of three or four point patches. These
patches are maintained throughout the package, even during
rendering. This is differentiated from other packages which model in
splines but tesselate or convert the spline patches to polygons for
rendering. Notably, Lightwave and StrataStudioPro do this. This
conversion unfortunately is irreversible and the resulting geometry is
still subject to polygonal artifacts during animation and disallow
smoothly joined model segments. Spline modeling and patch rendering,
on the other hand allows for beautifully realistic skinned models and
smooth morphing during animation and movement.

Modeling tools include, extrusion along a path, lathing, etc. But for
the most part the tactile feel of the patched geometry allows the
artist to quickly "push-and-pull" parts of the model quickly to reach
the desired effect.  It really is like working with virtual clay.

In v3 one can quickshade in the modeling section as well as every
other section of the package, and this is now so quick (gourauds are
very fast) that checking the model for proper curvature and shape is
easy, and it makes the creation of complex models like human faces,
etc very rapid.

The resultant files from sculpture are .seg files. And they represent
geometry.

Character:
----------
This section of the package allows the animator to piece together the
parts of a character to compose the whole figure. Here you setup the
hierarchy of the parts. Connect the segments and skin them if you wish
and also set up the kinemation of the character as well as its
movement constraints. In v2 this was a separate module, but in v3 like
everything else it is integrated into a single package.
Character depends upon composited .seg files which ultimately produce
a figure file which saves as .fig, and these contain information on
skinning and constraint attributes.


Animating:
----------
All animation in v2 was done in Action, and in v3 is done through the
Direction section by editing the scripts of figures. Although the
modeling features of AM are outstanding, the animation features are
what it is most known for. The first package on the Macintosh and the
PC to have inverse kinematics, an absolute must for character
animators, Animation Master v2 has been out now for about a year and a
half, when most other main 3D packages are just now implementing a
form of inverse kinematics or still lack it. IK in AM is very easy to
use, in fact, when implemented in a character, you simply animate the
character and never have to think about IK again, it's simply there,
it doesn't ever call attention to itself, you just use it.

v3 now has Hash's second generation of the IK implementation and this
includes the addition of segment anchoring to help animate characters.
This is explained in more detail under NEW FEATURES.

Also, AM has always had the ability to perform muscle morphing. This
feature is linked to the fact that AM functions with patches. Each
patch is composed by control points. These control points can be moved
and animated separately allowing the animator to make muscles bulge or
flex, cause faces to grimace or smile, or even to squash and stretch
very specific portions of the model interactively.

Another feature is spine deformation. This allows the animator to
assign a separate spline to function as the spine for any segment of
the model. By moving the spine-spline, the animator controls the
movement of the entire segment. The classic example is the assignment
of a vertical spline which runs the length of the characters torso. By
bending or moving the spine- spline, the entire torso of the character
will bend, twist, curl, and move. Not only that, but depending on how
you've shaped the spine-spline, you can make the character bend over
by moving the spline and the belly can either pinch in or bulge out
like fat.

This can be used for many things including the animating the action of
a swimming and undulating fish, moving hair, moving clothes, etc.

All animations can be eased and manipulated totally by the use of
channels which are also involved in the detailed control of other
features.  Channels are essentially the key to controlling devices and
objects in Animation Master. They are basically "dials" which allow
you to set the parameters of a feature to any value at a specific
frame number in an animation. Say you have a character walking along a
spline path in the choreography, and you wish to have it travel 25% of
the distance on the path by frame 10 of a 100 frame animation. Then in
the character's EASE channel you would set the value to 25% to frame
10. If you wanted the camera to have a focal length of 3.5 at frame 10
and a focal length of 22 at from 100, then you would set the camera's
FOCAL LENGTH channel to 3.5 at frame 10 and 22 at frame 100. These
points would be connected by a smooth spline so that the change would
focal point would gradually shift from 3.5 to 22 between frame 10 to
100 smoothly. You could also make that shift occur immediately if you
wished by setting the points of the channel's spline to be peaked
instead of smooth. Anyway, nearly every feature of Animation Master
can be controlled by a channel spline and manipulated, they are very
powerful.

The resulting files that are created by animating figures of AM are
..mor, ..mus, or .ske; which represent morph, muscles, or skeletal
animations respectively. These are created by manipulating .fig figure
files from Character.


Decaling:
---------
Application of maps (texture, diffusion, reflective, ambient, bump,
etc.)  are in v2 done with the decaller module, this has been
integrated in v3.  One manipulates the geometry interactively by
rotating and shifting the model until the face that you wish to attach
the decal to is in front. Then you resize and align the decal to the
face until you feel it is right and stick it on. You can set the map
to be any type you wish and you can apply as many layers as you wish
(as long as you have the memory to do it). This ability to add
multiple layers is not found in 3DStudio, Electric Image, or any other
package that I know of. It if very powerful and useful for artists and
takes the headache out of applying decals in other packages which
limit you to one or at most 2 layers of maps. Even the interactive
decaling is unique and makes map applications a snap and removes the
guesswork of wrapping maps to geometry.

In addition the decals are properly UV mapped which means that the
decals are anchored to the underlying patches and control points. This
means that when an artist is using animated maps (another feature :) )
or simply static maps and manipulates the underlying geometry in
animation the maps will stretch and move according to the geometry.

The decaler takes .seg files and attaches a new patch color file and
surface map file which contains map location information which are
written as ..col and .sur files respectively.


Material Editor:
----------------
The materials editor is fairly straightforward in concept, a bit
blackbox in effect, but powerful in creating procedural textures. It
is something like a Renderman in the creation of shaders but not as
powerful. You can create custom shaders and textures or use built in
materials. You can also combine materials together mathematically and
in an unlimited fashion to create more and more complex
materials. Like everything else, these procedural textures are
controllable through channels and as such can be animated over time as
well. The materials editor can thus create some terrific animated
textures.

I have just been told that although a materials editor was included in
v2, MHA have a built in materials editor or module, and this option
will only be made available to Animation Master owners. This is a
tough loss in my opinion. But users should not be too disappointed
since many built in textures are available in the package ready made
and material trading is free. Besides, the decaler is so powerful that
many effects can be done merely by using maps.

The Material Editor creates .mat files which are applied to geometry
and represented as .col files.


Direction:
----------
This is the last destination of all the figures and characters created
in Animation Master and is essentially a virtual studio. You can set
up the lighting (bulb, klieg, spot, sun, etc.), the camera position,
the characters, and the targets. In v2 there was only a single target
which could be tracked by lights or the camera or both. In v3, there
can be multiple targets for individual lights as well. In Direction,
all items can be assigned to a single control point or attached to a
spline path. If assigned to a path, the item will automatically move
from the beginning to end of the spline path over the course of the
frame animations. By controlling the channels, one can ease the path
slowly, quickly, or erratically, or even flash from point to point.
Again, total control.

Manipulating the position of the scene and its components is simple
and rapid in v3 which has enhanced zoom and rotating screen
refresh. The characters that within the scene can also be shown as
bounding boxes, vector lines, or curved lines depending on the speed
and the detail that you wish to have in looking at your scene.

Previews of the animation can also be made from any angle that you
wish as well as from the camera's view. These can be shaded or
wire-framed with a variety of options to select from.

Characters on paths can track in a variety of ways. This is a bit
difficult to explain in words, but suffice it to say that it is a nice
feature and is new to v3.

The type of file created here is a choreography file termed .cho and
depends on all other files from the other sections


NEW FEATURES:
=============
First of all, the biggest difference and most visible change between
v2 and v3 is the modification of the interface. Mainly inacted to
increase functionality and development speed, the change in interface
should also satisfy the number of users that were uncomfortable with
the previous interface in version 2. Like version 2, the interface
will be similar across platforms, simplifying cross-platform
development, for houses which use AM on different hardware (like us :)
). The data from version 2 is compatible with version 3 and was one of
the main focuses of Team HASH. Also, like v2, the data is
cross-platform compatible.

The alteration in the interface's look is due to a alteration in the
Animation Master program, specifically, instead of the moduler package
of version 2, all modules are incorporated into a single package for
version 3.

The user is able to switch quickly within the overall program to each
of the different sections of AM that before were entirely separate
applications.

You begin by creating a scene or choreography and develop the scene by
adding and positioning lights, figures, cameras, etc. When you add a
new figure, the program will ask if you wish to create a new character
or if you wish to Browse for a current one.

If you are creating a new character, a new character screen will come
up in which you can begin add different segments of geometry to form
the figure.  If you wish to create a new piece of geometry, a new
sculpting screen will be called up within which you can model a new
segment. And so on.

What's useful is the ability to add as many windows as you like, tile
them or set them about however you wish. These can represent as many
different views from different viewpoints or even from different
sections of the program. That is, I can have a bird's eye view from
the choreography of my walking rabbit, have a closeup front view of
the rabbit character figure, and in a third view be actively
manipulating the right arm segment's geometry of the rabbit, which I
will see is changing in real time in the choreography (or at least
close enough in realtime to be really useful :) ).

Another part of the new feature set which has increased production
speed is the incredibly fast screen refresh and
quickshading. Quickshading can be set to a variety of settings
including flat, gouraud, and phong shading or even ray-tracing. With
or without decals, specify lighting direction, etc.

And these quickshades can be done in any part of the development
window, be it the choreography stage, the character section, modeler,
etc. it doesn't matter, you can shade it.

The real boon is the speed of the shades which helps modeling
immensely.  Instead of waiting for a quickshade to complete to see if
the spline patches have been formed properly, you merely click the
shade and.... SNAP! The shaded geometry is up. For Mac folks there's
going to be some amazing performance with Quickdraw3D. With 3D
hardware acceleration, QD3D, and motion capture, Ken Baer, the man in
charge of the Mac programming, is looking for real time flat-shaded
motion capture of characters, and perhaps, perhaps gouraud shaded
motion capture. Yes, that's exciting.

Don't worry PC'ers ( I use both PCs and Macs, did I say that already? ),
Quickdraw3D should be available for PCs in January, and I imagine, this
feature will change the way we look at desktop 3D.

There has also been additions to the exportable formats that AM
supports.  These now include exporting to: DXF, Wavefront's .OBJ, and
Renderman's .RIB formats, as well as the aforementioned, Apple's
Quickdraw3D, 3Dmetafile format.

Numerous additional animation features have also been added. This
include the ability to anchor segment points during inverse
kinematics. One difficult thing to do in animating in any package is
that even with IK present, when you move the waist of a humanoid, for
example, you will end up moving every segment of the body that is
subordinant to the waist in the character hierarchy, like the thighs,
legs, and feet.

If I wanted to make a person crouch or something, I would necessarily
have to move their waist, and since the legs were subordinant I would
have to adjust the legs so that they touch the ground
properly. However, with anchoring enabled, I just have to anchor the
feet of the character, choose the waist and lower the waist. Anchored,
the legs will remain frozen and the inverse kinematics will adjust the
knees to bend accordingly as the waist is lowered.

This is a simple example of how anchoring can help an animator but many
more complex and sophisticated movements can be simplified by this
feature.

Additional features are the ability to do what Hash calls, Action
Overloading. This is essentially the ability to combine isolated
actions like a flexing arm, blinking eye, or running pair of legs, all
together. This combinatorial ability and the current motion library
feature enable animators to reuse, combine, and create new animations
with the same or even different figures more efficiently and rapidly.

To go over quickly, a few other additional features are adjustable
stride length, a various forms of path tracking, integration of the
decalling module into the modeling area, floating menus and windows,
and a new interactive dialog box for channels, among others.

Overall, the enhancements to AM v3 have all contributed to a much
faster development environment, resulting in much snappier performance
and quick response. Smoother geometry manipulation, zooming, rotating,
etc.  makes AM a very nice environment to work in.


FULL ANIMATION MASTER V3 PACKAGE:
=================================
So as stated above, the full Animation Master v3 package will include:
Martin Hash's Animation, Post-composting module, Render24 (network
renderer), and Lip-synch (I think, this may end up being included in
MHA).

The Post-Compositing module will allow users to take separate
animations of the same scene which have been rendered with the depth
and/or shadow buffers active and composite them together in Post-Comp
which will accurately and properly place all shadows and depth
position correctly.  This saves rendering time, is a more efficient
way to render scenes, and follows an approach more similar to
traditional animation.

For example, I have a scene with buildings in the background, and
three characters in the foreground walking and crossing paths. Instead
of rendering the entire scene with all objects turned on which would
take a long time, I can turn on the shadow and depth buffers and
render each individual object/character. Here are the advantages. By
doing each object render separately, I can make sure that they look
exactly the way that I want. If all objects except for a single
character are correct, I would normally have to re-render the entire
scene. Using the post-compositor, I can merely re-render the single
faulty character, saving lots of time.

When effects do come to Animation Master in later versions, particles
will use the same paradigm. Instead of rendering particles in the
entire render, the animator will be able to adjust and tweak with
precision the particle animation to achieve the effect he or she
desires without rendering the entire scene.

Because the shadow and depth buffers hold the information which
relates the various object/characters together in the scene, the
post-compositor can take the information and accurately apply the
buffers to the objects so that the shadows from one character will
fall properly and accurately as it passes another character.

Additional features of the post-compositor include the ability to
create drop- shadows if you don't have shadow buffers with your
animations and a variety of other effects similar to some present in
CoSAs AfterEffects.  As I haven't seen the post-compositor I cannot
comment on the features in detail.  Suffice it to say that there is
nothing like it right now included or associated with any competing
package.

The Render24 module will simplify the distribution of rendering with
data across a network as well as include some more advanced rendering
features, I believe. MHA will not include network rendering as is my
understanding. Render24 has also been called NetRender.

The Lip-Synch module will allow users to graphically see sound files
that have been created for an animation and allow the animator to
sequentially demarcate which waveform is associated with which phoneme
by playing the sound and adding markers which section off the
sound. Then the animator can take the properly corresponding facial
muscle morph of his or her character and apply it to the correct
phoneme that's been designated by the Lip-Syncher. My understanding of
this module is a bit vague, unfortunately and I apologize. It will
function essentially as I've stated above, and will facilitate sound
coordination to animation.


MY OPINIONS:

Again, although I admit to being a shameless evangelist of Animation
Master, I do not work for Hash, and merely am a enthusiastic user of
their software. Please take my opinions with this in mind.But I am not
alone.

As I have written often in my posts to newsgroups in response to
requests for new 3D software suggestions for newbies or new-users,
Acclaim's coin-op division is using Animation Master in-house for game
dev, Disney is using AM in house, for what exactly, I'm not sure, but
it's there :).  WarnerActive has just released Panic in the Park which
uses AM. Crystal Dynamics used AM's older brother Playmation for the
graphics created in its title the Horde. Cygnus has been using AM
exclusively for sprite and animation creation. They contract their
services for sprite creation to many companies in the game industry
and have in the past won a contract from another house which was using
Wavefront on SGIs, on the basis of equal quality sprites but lower
cost and faster turnaround.

I recently was contracted to help evaluate AM for Time Warner
Interactive by using AM on Macs and PCs to create a character for an
upcoming title which went against the same character created in-house
using Alias PowerAnimator on SGIs. I was able to quickly turn out the
character, fully skinned, and inversely kinemated. The animators found
that not only was AM an order of magnitude cheaper than AliasPA on
SGIs, but that it was easier to animate the characters using Animation
Master than it was in Alias PowerAnimator.

An update on this project is that I have completed six of the ten game
characters for the title and will be finishing the last four in the
remaining weeks. Using scanned images from pencil sketches by TWIs
designers I was able to use the template function in AM to keep the
proportions and general shape of the models accurate and did it very
quickly. I was able to create the last three characters in a period of
under ten days at a reasonable but not forced pace (~6-8 hours a day).

Needless to say, there are many other companies currently out there
that are using Animation Master for the same reasons. This was pretty
apparent from the incredible response Hash's little booth received at
the Computer Game Developer's Conference even though the show floor
was dominated by the large booths of the Big Three SGI packages. I was
present as an attendee but ended up demoing AM a bit during the
show. Throughout the show, representatives from many different
companies approached the Hash folks asking about AM due to the
frightening cost of outfitting a company with a suitable number of
SGIs and the associated software packages. They were understandably
concerned about the power of AM and dubious about its capabilities due
to the low price of the product. Many saw the promotional tape and
were extremely impressed. Soon enough, firms were asking to purchase
copies of pre-release v3 and v2, even as the show was closing down on
the floor as well as in the hallways as folks were leaving.

Animation Master's advantages are very clear. Cost, Power, Ease, and
Portability. By running on multiple platforms sharing data over a
network, AM is welcome at many large companies.

But you don't have to be a multi-million dollar company which has the
ability to buy dozens of SGI and Alias seats but opts for Animation
Master on PPCs and Pentiums. You can and most likely are an individual
with terrific aspirations to become a skilled 3D animator. In fact,
these folks are the exact reason why I am taking the time to write
this miniFAQ. I feel that Animation Master is fully capable of
training and developing animators in the areas of spline modeling and
character animation, no matter what the platform. Animation Master may
not be your ultimate goal, but as a package to learn and develop your
skills on, you cannot go wrong. There is simply nothing like it for
character animation on non-SGI platforms. And even against SGI-only
packages AM stacks up firmly and solidly as the above examples
demonstrate.

And it really isn't proper to say that Animation Master is toe-to-toe
the same or better package as Alias PowerAnimator or Wavefront in its
various incarnations is. It's not, at least not entirely, depending on
who you are or what you are using it for. I would say without
hesitation that Animation Master's greatest weakness for now,
currently lies in the fact that it lacks any particle animation or
dedicated special effects functions, and physical dynamics. Watching
particle animated hair and snow on Alias, as well as physics is
impressive.

These are definitely limitations for AM. However, I was amazed by
others as well as myself in what I was able to achieve for other
effects in AM simply by manipulating the Material editor and animating
the procedural textures, this can create a great many effects that
other packages support by way of IPAS or plug-ins. I was never able to
create falling rain or snow or wind blown leaves by doing that, but
many things can also be taken care of using post packages, and some
support particles as well. I've been assured that particles and
dynamics are in Animation Master's future, however ( I suppose it has
to be, eh?  :) ). Although, it is not clear when this will take place.

So in the end I would say that if you are doing something for the big
screen like Jurassic Park or Apollo 13, which made heavy use of
particles and such, I wouldn't opt with Animation Master. Mask... that
actually wouldn't be bad. But if you're doing video quality,
multimedia level, game cut- scenes, and for sprites for sure,
Animation Master would be more than enough to accomplish your
needs. And since I feel justified in saying that I think the dedicated
film associated users are in the highly talented and skilled but
significantly distinct minority of users, most of us should find
Animation Master the package of choice, especially if we ever plan on
doing any character animation. Besides, anyone who is interested in
another package like Lightwave or 3DStudio would consider the price of
Animation Master or MHA to be a low cost plug-in for themselves :).


DISCLAIMER:
===========
I apologize for any inaccuracies in this miniFAQ and any mistakes are
mine and not that of Hash's. Please if you have any questions or see
any inaccuracies in the above descriptions feel free to contact Hash
to verify or correct them.  Their number is 360-750-0042. You can
reach them through e-mail at either [e-mail] (Steve Sappington)
or [e-mail].  They also have a web site. I believe it to be
www.teleport.com, then search for hash from there. They have a large
presence on AOL, simply keyword "hash".

By the way, the August '95 issue of Computer Graphics World has an
article on Human Character Animation which features some of the stuff
that I've done in Animation Master if you are interested in the type of
output. It's an old model and has plenty of artifacts, but it gives you
an idea of what you can do with AM in a short time (4 months of
learning). It's just a single pict. In the July issue, a still from
Cygnus is featured in another article.

Also, for you "out of towners" :), there is a PAL version of the
Animation Master/MHA tutorial tape available. Contact Martin Spooner of
ArtElectric in England. His number is [phone]; His e-mail
address is [e-mail]. This is information that has been
forwarded to me by Hash, so please, if there are any questions, please
contact them.

Again, Good Luck!



--


__________________________________________________
Stephen C. Chan
Creative Director
Chanime Interactive
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
Date: 16 Jan 1996 04:27:05 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (David Oxley) writes:

>  Integrate Layout and Modeler in one program.  You can then work directly
>  on your scene, and modifications to objects can be done without having to:
>  save object, jump back to Modeler, reload the object, modify it, save it,
>  jump to Layout, replace object.

    I regard the separation as one last firewall before accidentally destroying
an object, since it can be recovered from LWM if need be.

........
>
>  Implement a hierarchical object selection window (like in Real 3D and
>  other programs).  It would make the parent relationships easy to see,

    This already exists in the SCENE panel.  RTFM.


>  Redo the wireframe drawing routines so that moving an object at least
>  leaves a ghost image of the scene for reference so that alignment is
>  easier to judge.  The screen can then redraw fully, if necessary, when the
>  mouse button is released.

    Yes, there's really no reason that ALL the objects should become bboxes
when moving an object.  When moving the camera, for performance reasons, prolly
everything should become bboxes.  But when moving a single object most of the
screen will remain static....unless the camera is either targeted at the object,
or is a child of the object.

    If only some of the scene object bboxed, it would be easier to line things
up.  Of course, this was suggested over two years ago by moi......

>
>  Thanks for reading.
>
>  |David Oxley, Logica UK|SH5/HR 75 Hampstead Rd|[phone]x1800|
>  |<[e-mail]> |London NW1 2PL England|[phone](fax)|
>  `----------------------^----------------------^--------------------'
>  All opinions expressed are mine not Logica's. http://www.logica.com/
>
>>>>


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>   [e-mail] (David Oxley) writes:

>  Integrate Layout and Modeler in one program.  You can then work directly
>  on your scene, and modifications to objects can be done without having to:
>  save object, jump back to Modeler, reload the object, modify it, save it,
>  jump to Layout, replace object.

    I regard the separation as one last firewall before accidentally destroying
an object, since it can be recovered from LWM if need be.

........
>
>  Implement a hierarchical object selection window (like in Real 3D and
>  other programs).  It would make the parent relationships easy to see,

    This already exists in the SCENE panel.  RTFM.


>  Redo the wireframe drawing routines so that moving an object at least
>  leaves a ghost image of the scene for reference so that alignment is
>  easier to judge.  The screen can then redraw fully, if necessary, when the
>  mouse button is released.

    Yes, there's really no reason that ALL the objects should become bboxes
when moving an object.  When moving the camera, for performance reasons, prolly
everything should become bboxes.  But when moving a single object most of the
screen will remain static....unless the camera is either targeted at the object,
or is a child of the object.

    If only some of the scene object bboxed, it would be easier to line things
up.  Of course, this was suggested over two years ago by moi......

>
>  Thanks for reading.
>
>  |David Oxley, Logica UK|SH5/HR 75 Hampstead Rd|[phone]x1800|
>  |<[e-mail]> |London NW1 2PL England|[phone](fax)|
>  `----------------------^----------------------^--------------------'
>  All opinions expressed are mine not Logica's. http://www.logica.com/
>
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Subject: Re: Up the Contrast? (Gamma?)
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>   [e-mail] (EnnBee) writes:
>  I have a Personal Animation Recorder I have been using for sometime
>  and am a recent addition to the LW user base (still using 3DStudio
>  (since R2)).
>
>  Anyway, my problem seems rather simple, but I can't beat it.  While I
>  like LW capabilities and the look of its renderings, they always come
>  out VERY washed out/non-contrasty on my PAR.  Has anyone had any
>  experience with this?  Is there anyway to 'up' the contrast.  Its not
>  an ambient light problem, because even the demo files rendered out
>  look great on the computer but faded on the TV screen.
>

    Make sure you have the correct termination on the output of your
PAR.  (The hardware prob.)

    LW should not generate washed out pix.  Try grabbing some real video
via camera or tape and see if it is washed out.  If not, export the good pix
to your system and compare a LW pic and the reality pic.

    If it still seems that LW is generating washed out pix, check to make
sure you do not have an excessive amount of ambient light set in the light panel,
nor any high value of directionless light.  I use like 7% ambient, and you should
only go over 100% on instruments for special effects or to finetune falloff.

    Good luck.

>  Aaron


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Subject: Re: Avid (Mac-based) and  dumping animation files from an Amiga 2000
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    I have experience doing exactly that, so I'll tell you what I do.
    To transfer images between my A4000 and Powermac 5200 I use a
Bernoulli drive (of course, the Syquest is the same in principle). I currently
use crossdos 5, so I format my bernoullis in MS-DOS. A better scenario would
be to use Crossmac.

    1) render the files to the Amiga drive (I do this because the
MS-DOS formatting on the Bernoulli degrades with repating
mounting/read/writes - I've had images appear to write, but then get a
"file not found" when read the disk on a mac)

    2) copy the data to the [Syquest]. I would rather render to the
removable media directly, but the formatting has proven less then 100%
reliable).

    3) Move the read/write tab on the Syquest to "protect". This
prevents the Mac from messing around with the directory and desktop data.
    After hooking up the drive, copy to the mac drive. The
facillity I work at has plenty of Media drive space, so I usually copy to
one of those, instead of the system disk. I copy the files because access is
thwn faster.

    4) I use Debabelizer to convert the IFF images to a quicktime
file with "none" compression. I use quicktime because the 5.5 Media
Composer software has trouble reading PICT sequences. If I rendered at
anything other than square pixels, I also scale the images to 640 x 480,
which is the Mac standard for NTSC images.

    5) After checking the Media Composer's compression setting, I
import the quicktime movie, which is converted to Media.

    Incidentally, the Media can be finally saved as an OMFI file of
relatively small size, because of the clean nature of the image.

    Debabelizer's packaging claims to convert to/from OMFI, but the
1.5.5 software doesn't do it. This is because AVID didn't release the
appropriate specs at that time.

    I hope this helps. If the is a better way to do this, please let
me know.

            -Ken M.
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From: [e-mail] (Troy Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: LightWave 4.0 INSTALLATION PROBLEMS!!!
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 03:27:50 GMT
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I just purchased Lightwave 4.0 for the PC and I am having major
problems installing it!  When I install it on any other computer
running windows 95 everything works fine.  I have a P90 W/16mb ram
running windows 95 and everytime I run the setup utility i get this
message,

    Bindtime error:

        Cannot load library: 'MSCOMSTF.DLL'

I have tried copying this file to all of the windows subdirectorys and
I still have no luck.  I tried reinstalling windows 95 and it gives me
the same exact error.  I do not have any of the win32s installed and I
cannot find anything wrong with my system.  If anyone has any ideas I
would be most greatful!!!!

Thanks!

        Troy Morgan



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From: [e-mail] (Wanna B 3D)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Scremernet batch rendering
Date: 15 Jan 1996 23:39:20 -0500
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Greeting fellow users!
I'm having a problem seeting up my 1 computer to batch render files under
screamernet.  Any help would be appreciated...
I set up an icon to set my computer up  as node 1, then launch lightwave.
when I initialize SN, it says one computer available.  I click o.k. it
loads the scene and my hard drive is going gang busters.  I look and it
says under the status that it's waiting for the computer to render.  In
actuality, my computer has convieniantly crashed!  I hit ctl+alt+del and
get this msg. "no free file handles cannot load command, system halted."
I have to reboot.
Anyone, anyone....
Thanks very much,
Frank Chiappetta
[e-mail]

            Frank Chiappetta
      <<<BaseTwo Imaging>>>
...The World Inside My Computer...
      <<<  [phone]  >>>
      < [e-mail]>>

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From: [e-mail] (ReplicaTch)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Constant Particle Stream
Date: 16 Jan 1996 00:15:32 -0500
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>> Anyone know how to generate a constant flow of particles from a single
point or small area.  This is for sparks in cutting a logo out of metal.

Is this process made much easier with Sparks or Particle Storm?

Thanks <<<

Much, much, much easier.
In fact, I personally don't know of a way to do it otherwise. But then
again, I am pretty dim.

Keith Lango
Director Mac 3D Development
REPLICA Technology
"Affordable, Quality 3D models"

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Harlock)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: City of Lost Children
Date: 16 Jan 1996 02:16:43 -0800
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Robin Germany <[e-mail]> wrote:
>"City of Lost Children" is not only the best film I have seen since Brazil
>(if not better), but it is one of the most mature uses of animation and
>digital effects.  Unlike most Hollywood crap where you get lots of really
>cool special effects in some really lame film (for example StarGate), City
>of Lost Children is a fantastic film - visionary story, great
>cinematography, etc. - gracefully using 3DAnimation and effects only where
>needed.
>
>I highly reccomend seeing it.  It is a french film by the directors of
>Delicatessan.
>
>Go See It!

Funny, I just saw it tonight.
In the credits, they listed Softimage and an HP RISC workstation as
the hard/software combination.  (credits are in french but it's easy
to pick this part out)

This was indeed a good example where it was used only where needed
the most (the little fleas and the green mist, most prominently)

Keep rendering,
---Mike


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From: [e-mail] (David Oxley)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: 3D Accelerators
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:45:18 +0000
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) wrote:

>768 at 4096 colors as a good compromise between quality and performance.
        ^^^^
Ha-ha!  The return of HAM :-)

|David Oxley, Logica UK|SH5/HR 75 Hampstead Rd|[phone]x1800|
|<[e-mail]> |London NW1 2PL England|[phone](fax)|
`----------------------^----------------------^--------------------'
All opinions expressed are mine not Logica's. http://www.logica.com/

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From: Ace Miles <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Matrox Card with Powerview Plug-in?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 15:43:00 -0800
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William A. Mendez wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if any of you are using Any Matrox card with the
> Powerview plug-in, and how is the performance.
>
> Also is the screen redraw in modeler any faster with the matrox.
>
> Thanks!
> Will Mendez

I have a Matrox card at home and there is no obvious difference.
Of course that probably has to do with the fact it only has two megs on
it.
     -------------------------------------------------------------
    Ace Miles * Senior Animator * Time Warner Interactive

       [e-mail] (work)  or   [e-mail] (home)
           408-473-9492                     408-446-4808

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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Modelling human objects ??
Date: 16 Jan 1996 03:23:33 -0500
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>John Clodfelter ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: I'm trying create from scratch a human head and bust object on
>: Lightwave 3.1 but I'm having trouble.
>

I am working on that right now too. I suggest getting some clay and forming
a human head from tht in order to better understand it in 3d. It will show
you the techniques needed to create the form.
--
M C L -

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Justin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: I bought Lightwave v4.0 without manuals, *PLEASE* help me!
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On Jan 15, 1996 07:53:02 in article <I bought Lightwave v4.0 without
manuals, *PLEASE* help me!>, '[e-mail] (Thomas Lageraaen)'
wrote:


>Could someone please tell me *exactly* how i can make a nice logo on 3
>lines and in 3D, and replace it with that "World Premiere" logo, and
>get the same animation just with my logo.
>
>Please explain to me step-by-step, as i said in the subject I bought
>Lightwave v4.0 private, and got no manuals.
>
>What animation filetypes can i save it as?
>

caveat emptor

or

You have to be kidding!

or

Send me your LW serial # and a photo of your dongle
and I would be happy to help.

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Goor)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: FS LW DEC ALPHA
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For Sale LW for DEC ALPHA - brand new  - Offical - untouched.

$1,800.00

Also Alpha 166mhz make an offer I will sell just the board

or with tower case.  (500.00 to 700.00 or so)

Paul Goor

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <4dcter$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>2). Look, as near as I can tell, this newsgroup serves no useful
>    purpose whatsoever. It exists solely to a). serve as a forum
>    for third-party vendors to promote their products

Did someone say promotion?  Did I mention that we're offering
a $100 credit for anyone who'd like to purchase InterChange
for Windows, if you send in the front page of your InterChange
for Amiga manual?  :-)

- John